re: iPhone 12 vs iPhone 13

SE 3rd gen baw

Don’t know. When my 8 quits I’ll check it out and get back

I recently jumped from 13 to 14. The biggest screen Pro Max or whatever in both. Both phones ended up getting repaired because of cracked screens. The iPhone 13 shattered its back glass, and the 14 is on its second set of camera lenses. Maybe just dumb luck, but I've never had a major problem with the iPhone glassworks before those two models.

Just one screen repair over the past decade when the phone fell out of my pocket while climbing a pole. It landed face-down on concrete, but a buddy of mine had the parts to fix it on the tailgate of his truck. These last several repairs have required trips to the Apple Store and hours of wasted time.

OTOH, my dad has a 15 (standard size model), and it seems to be withstanding the usual bumps and bruises our farm dishes out.

TL;DR: Steer clear of 13-14.

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You alright, mate?

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I’m fine sir. Appreciate your concern.

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I have a 12 and it is fine for my needs. Probably will not get a 15 unless my 12 craps out

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Why not trade in the 12 while it’s still worth something? As long as they’re offering $1000 credit to trade in a 3 year old phone, I’ll take the ‘free’ new phone they offer. And when the rebate ends on my 15, I’ll send it in for the 18 or 19, whatever’s out at the time, unless they stop offering the inflated trade in value, then I’ll keep it until it craps out.

What is the advantage of an eSim versus a SIM card?

The phones with a physical sim come with the little tool to open the sim port, it’s really not hard to do and it takes all of 5 seconds. But I guess if you changed sims very often because of international travel, it would be a pain in the arse to keep up with the little tool and an extra SIM card.

I have the 13 pro max and I’ll probably ride it into the ground. Best phone I’ve ever had. Several years old and the battery still goes for days with normal day to day use. If I’m on it a lot on an off day, the battery does drain faster but that’s any phone. Just texting and calling, it’ll last 3 days.

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Most important thing is GB space.

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I tried to get the the 15pm with 1tb but they were out of stock. Had to get 512gb. I use up the storage pretty quickly.


I like the mini models (SM) but they seldom put the better cameras in those or have large storage.

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Such a dumb take. Apple silicon flat out dominates anything for processing power and battery life.

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60% of OTers disagree per survey.

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The phones with a physical sim come with the little tool to open the sim port, it’s really not hard to do and it takes all of 5 seconds. But I guess if you changed sims very often because of international travel, it would be a pain in the arse to keep up with the little tool and an extra SIM card.

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That, and also imagine having to use that tool to switch out the SIM card every single time your bank or other financial institution wants to provide you with a two factor authentication code to access your money, and refuse to let you use email or another workaround…. And using Google Voice to “park” your American phone number, or carrying a seperate American phone, or other similar options, all have their own drawbacks.. i learned all of this the hard way.. Much, much easier to just toggle back and forth between foreign and American SIMs within the same phone when needed .