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re: Pet owners question: crate training and leaving dog out to roam

Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by Bayou Warrior 64
Member since Feb 2021
291 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:21 pm to
Crating for dogs is natural. It is similar to their den instinct. Make sure your crate or kennel is adequate in size and allows them to stand, reposition, etc. Put a special chew toy that is only available to them when in the crate.

If you are going to be away for most of the day I would suggest using a baby gate or pet gate and confining them to one room. Depending on the dog's age and breed, you might want to jog with them or bring them on a long walk in the morning before you leave.

Lastly, maybe consider having someone come in to walk your dog during the day if you will be away for an extended period of time. Many app services exist today which allow you to easily find a local walker near you.

Good luck!
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Inadvertent Whistle
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2015
4374 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:26 pm to
Our Golden Retriever prefers being in her crate. If we leave her out she gets major anxiety while we are gone so we usually crate her when we leave. Just tell her to go to her room and she lays down and she's good.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20818 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:27 pm to
I'd never let a puppy / young dog have free reign to my house while I'm not there. They chew on everything and will destroy things. Crate training is essential.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15570 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:30 pm to
Chewing is the main reason that dog owners cite for using a crate. I found a chew toy that my dog preferred to chewing other things like the furniture.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19272 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:30 pm to
I did not crate train mine, he started sleeping in the bed at 6 weeks old.

We have a pretty good size backyard and a doggy door.

But he still suffers from separation anxiety so bad he has to take pills at times, if I have to leave he will sit in the front window staring at the driveway until I return.

It's a pain to deal with but he is part of the family

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:39 pm to
We have left our dogs in a crate for several hours at a time with water....they are none to worse for wear. They both have slept in their crates their entire lives with the doors open....they aren't under any stress in their crate, they actually prefer it. The little one is terrified of thunder and wind....anytime either is heard she heads for her crate...and if it gets bad enough she will pull the door shut as well as she can. They are accustomed to living in dens,,,,a crate is just a modern den. They are left in them overnight, several hours at a time is not stressful to them.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1444 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:41 pm to
Once housebroken and trustworthy alone, they are no longer crated. If anything is destroyed, it’s my fault for leaving it available. If my dog were untrustworthy, I’d have no issue crating when I’m gone for its safety.
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1127 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:44 pm to
We have a Frenchton, he's a French bulldog/Boston terrier mix. Both breeds are known for being insane chewers. We bought him a crate but he was never really into it. As he grew up we gradually left him alone a little at a time and he was fine. The main thing we were worried about was the chewing. We just started buying him chew toys the day we got him and just provided him lots of attractive alternatives for chewing other than our shoes or the furniture. At this point, he's two years old, still doesn't care for his crate, absolutely owns the couch, and loves his chew toys. The only casualty in two years was a single flip flop that belonged to my fiance.
Give them lots of chew toys.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41104 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

leaving dog out to roam



I have one dog that I can leave in the house all day and not worry about him. My little dog freaks the $^#*( out when my wife leaves the house.

Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
6978 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:45 pm to
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A properly crate trained dog won't have any issues being crated for many hours at a time, they just go in and go to sleep until you come home. That's what mine does. I don't even close the door, she just goes in, lays down, goes to sleep, and when I come home, she's still in there. Trained correctly, they don't see it as a cage, it's their own special place they cherish.


Have done several this way, have 2 now that were done this way...they like their crates. It is their place in the house. They voluntarily spend most of their day in them...
Posted by Potchafa
Avoyelles
Member since Jul 2016
3216 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:46 pm to
No dog prefers being in a crate!
Our Golden Doodle is 7 years old. She is stupid smart. Hypoallergenic and we keep her hair fairly short. She has been trained well by my wife and I and listens. She has her bed by the fireplace but sleeps at the foot of our big arse bed. We let her outside. When she is done, she has a specific bark to let us know to let her back in.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
1604 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 12:54 pm to
When we did it with our blue heeler puppy, we did stages.

Stage 1 - Crate with crate door closed and let out at lunch time during the day to use bathroom.

Stage 2 - Once potty trained, baby gate in hallway with bedroom doors closed with open crate at end of hallway.

Stage 3 - Hallway and one bedroom open for more space.

Stage 4 - Free range of entire house

There will be some casualties along the way. Lost some floor boards and a few phone chargers throughout the process.
Posted by lsu tigerdog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
247 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:00 pm to
i have a 1.5 yr toy Australian Sheppard, we got lucky enough he roams free in the house (all rooms doors closed) till my boys get home at 3 from school. Now we have another Sheppard about 4 months old - he's being crate trained,if i let him loose - he pee all over the place, not bladder control yet.
Posted by tigergal918
Member since Feb 2022
119 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 1:01 pm to
We crate trained our dogs and crate them daily. They are 100% happy & healthy.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11596 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:04 pm to
It's the separation anxiety that gets you... Had a Boxer with severe SA.. I can't tell the amount of stuff he destroyed. He hated the kennel... My boss had a Boxer and that dog took a huge diarrhea dump on her leather couch... It got down between the cushions. I had warned her about Boxers...
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11283 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:13 pm to
We leave our two dogs (female lab and male cur) inside roaming for about 10 hours a day. They do fine but we kind of worked our way up to it. When they were pups we made sure they knew what they were and weren't allowed to mess with. I think the only thing they've destroyed was a horse hair boot brush I left sitting on the coffee table. I think the lab is smart enough to know she will get in trouble and the cur is too dumb to figure out how to get in to trouble.

We have cameras in the house and both of them spend most of the day sleeping in their crates. They only get up to bark at the Fedex guy or to get some water.

The frickers both sleep 20 hours a day even when they are outside.


Crate training is one of the best things you can do. I can bring my dog anywhere and I know she is just going to chill and not make racket in her box if I'm traveling. I bring her hunting with me and she sleeps in her crate in the truck in case she needs to find a deer for me.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
8146 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:14 pm to
Crate train. Then started leaving the crate open in the laundry room.

Now even if I leave the laundry room door open, that’s where she spends her day.

When she’s tired anytime and at night, she usually goes to the crate on her own.

If you don’t punish a dog with it, they like having a crate as their spot. I can tell my dog to load up and she’ll sprint to her crate without any trouble.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28326 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:18 pm to
I wfh. Most of the day, my GR just lays around. He may switch spots a couple times but seems like little change.

Seems like your dog would be fine with a decent sized area, assuming not some high energy type.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95117 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:23 pm to
If you leave a dog inside alone they will sleep and or lay around and destroy shite

If you leave a dog crated they will sleep

Left inside alone a non crate dog isn’t any happier than a crated dog. It’s not like they enjoy watching tv or using stuff around the house

Dogs aren’t people. If you aren’t with them, they don’t get any more joy being left out vs being in a crate
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 2:26 pm
Posted by DandA
Mandevillian
Member since Jun 2018
826 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 2:59 pm to
I have 2 Australian Shepherds. When mine were puppies until about 1 year old, they stayed in my laundry room with the door shut while i was gone or asleep. They had plenty of chew toys to keep them occupied along with food/water/puppy pads, and i made sure that they couldnt reach anything they could potentially destroy. After that, I gradually increased the time they were allowed to roam freely in my house. I started with 1 hour, then gradually increased it over a few months. Luckily, they never had a chewing problem, they only liked to steal socks, and after they turned 2, I had no worries about them being free in the house for hours at a time while I was gone. Zero problems since and they are 5 and 6 by now.

Every dog is different though, so take my experience with a grain of salt.
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