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re: Some colleges will charge up to $95,000 this year...

Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Motownsix
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:12 am to
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This was on the decline 20 years ago. You want a good paying job with benefits, this is the way to go.


There’s a physical component to many of those sort of jobs that make them nearly impossible to do later on in life. How many fifty and sixty year olds can physically meet all the physical requirements to be a roofer, plumber, lay brick, and frame buildings. I see what some baws have to do in the 100 degree or 20 degree weather and want no part of that.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:22 am to
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So out of the degree programs they offer, which ones actually are worth a shite?


That’s one of the biggest fallacies regarding criticizing the value of college. The idea that some degrees are inherently more valuable is narrow minded.
The conclusion is that art school has no value because according to the 2020 census the average artist makes $35k per year. The assumption is that everyone who went to art school becomes an artist. Two of the three founders of AirBNB graduated from art school and are worth $10 billion each. Was their experience a waste of time? Did their parents make an unwise investment?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:29 am to
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The conclusion is that art school has no value because according to the 2020 census the average artist makes $35k per year. The assumption is that everyone who went to art school becomes an artist. Two of the three founders of AirBNB graduated from art school and are worth $10 billion each. Was their experience a waste of time? Did their parents make an unwise investment?


Is this a troll?

A 5'11'' white guy might make thrive as an RB the NFL every so often, but most of us should just be engineers or accountants
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 12:04 pm to
What’s ridiculous?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33656 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:12 pm to
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That's disgusting. No undergrad education is worth that
The crazy thing is that it's clearly underpriced. If Harvard was $10 million a year, they would have no problem at all filling it up.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 1:52 pm to
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The crazy thing is that it's clearly underpriced. If Harvard was $10 million a year, they would have no problem at all filling it up.



Can always count on a liberal to say something incredibly stupid.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20956 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 2:49 pm to
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The crazy thing is that it's clearly underpriced. If Harvard was $10 million a year, they would have no problem at all filling it up.


I would love for someone to show me how a $500k investment in a college education undergraduate degree makes financial sense, much less $10 MM.

What's your ROI?
Posted by Hellp
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:22 pm to
My son is going to an out of state college in the fall. Out of state tuition is $30,000 more than in state. That’s outrageous. He was close to choosing his second choice college until two days ago when the first choice came through with scholarships that surpassed our expectations. Our cost will now be about as much as we pay for private high school tuition per year. We feel very lucky. It’s outrageous how much college costs are. Without a great scholarship, the middle class student is screwed. America is freaking upside down world.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 3:28 pm
Posted by chili pup
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 3:53 pm to
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Some colleges will charge up to $95,000 this year but schools say it’s not a big deal because financial aid can ease the pain


Break the system more so the government can buy more votes.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4392 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:03 pm to
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This was on the decline 20 years ago. You want a good paying job with benefits, this is the way to go


I agree, the iron is hot.

I've seen Welders with a couple years of experience who want the work making in the 6 figures easily. No talk, just fact. I approved the payroll. One of the young men was in his late 20's. He took all the OT he could up until July. He made so much money he coasted the second half the year while having his 401K maxed out.

Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4392 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:06 pm to
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I work out of a local union hall. Still pisses my liberal sister with 3 degrees who just paid off her student debt that I can make more than her. I encourage anyone who has no idea what they want to do but just wants to go to college for the fun, join a reserve and find a skilled labor trade. Union or no union ( I prefer union). Those jobs won’t be eliminated by robots.



Its not a secret we as a whole over pushed the "get a college degree" narrative.

Many folks wouldve been better off, as would the country, if they had gone into a skill rather than obtain a degree.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
4392 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:08 pm to
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Is this a troll?

A 5'11'' white guy might make thrive as an RB the NFL every so often, but most of us should just be engineers or accountants


The height of a white males football career for the most part is if he ever gets the moniker "White Chocolate"

Posted by Tasseo
Member since Feb 2024
984 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:44 pm to
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Wellesley is among the colleges where the costs for wealthy students will exceed $90,000 for the first time this fall, with an estimated price tag of $92,000. But the institution points out that nearly 60% of its students will receive financial aid, and the average amount of that aid is more than $62,000, reducing their costs by two-thirds.

This STILL leaves you on the hook for $30,000 per year.

I hope they are including private scholarships cause no private school should be getting this much govt money.

This garbage needs to end.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15956 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Many folks wouldve been better off, as would the country, if they had gone into a skill rather than obtain a degree.


Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33656 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:28 pm to
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Can always count on a liberal to say something incredibly stupid.
Have you ever heard of foreign countries where the elite there will pay ANYTHING to have their kids go to the Harvards of the world? Are you under the impression that $95K is the market-clearing price at Harvard? That is to say, there is nobody on the waiting list? Are you fricking stupid?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33656 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:31 pm to
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I would love for someone to show me how a $500k investment in a college education undergraduate degree makes financial sense, much less $10 MM.

What's your ROI?
I didn't say I would be willing to pay it. But you can bet your arse that there are thousands of mega-wealthy Chinese and Middle East that would pay almost any amount asked. It's actually not even clear to me that it might not actually be worth $10 million to some of those people. E.g. it might help someone a little shady go legit for the future generations or whatever.

But in any event, it's very obvious that $95K is FAR BELOW the actual market-clearing price of entrance into Harvard (notice I didn't say "of a Harvard education").
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10462 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:38 pm to
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I would love for someone to show me how a $500k investment in a college education undergraduate degree makes financial sense, much less $10 MM.

What's your ROI?
Families paying that much out of pocket for Wellesley or Harvard aren't looking at it in terms of conventional ROI on a bachelor's degree--cost versus career earnings for what you are professionally trained for.

They have the cash, no problem. It's what they have to do to either get connected or stay connected, long term. In the right degree programs (which is what your full-cost-payers are in) it opens (or reinforces) doors on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley and in DC and abroad that most of us could never dream of.

At Wellesley, you are paying for your daughter to be in an intimate educational and residential environment with the daughters of other senators, governors, venture capitalists, captains of industry, and international business and political leaders (along with a very small cadre of radical racialists and Marxists).

This is how Kennedys become Kennedys, Bushes become Bushes, Trumps become Trumps, and Louisiana stays Louisiana.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 9:08 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:40 pm to
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Have you ever heard of foreign countries where the elite there will pay ANYTHING to have their kids go to the Harvards of the world? Are you under the impression that $95K is the market-clearing price at Harvard? That is to say, there is nobody on the waiting list? Are you fricking stupid?

There aren't enough families in the world with college aged kids that can swing $10 million tuition. frick off with moving the goal post from your absolutely stupid claim.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 8:41 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84393 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 8:41 pm to
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But in any event, it's very obvious that $95K is FAR BELOW the actual market-clearing price of entrance into Harvard (notice I didn't say "of a Harvard education").


Source, trust me bro
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13633 posts
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:01 pm to
Slowly becoming more of a racket than health insurance
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