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re: The city of BR needs us to weigh in about Government Street.

Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13522 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:39 pm to
Okay, I'll start:

It's still as dangerous as it ever was, after dark.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4420 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:40 pm to
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is that there is no easy way into North Blvd, their preferred east-west thoroughfare, from most directions.


I take North from work downtown to my house in capital heights without issue. What I do have a problem with is the city telling drivers to use North when the road conditions are horrible. The stretch between Acadian and South Foster is full of shock-stressing buckles and potholes.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:42 pm to
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Rip them out and go back to 4 lanes



That's not going to happen.

Honestly I'd have avoided the medians entirely and just made a two lane minor artery with street parking on both side of the road except in areas that already have a lot of parking, where I'd go with a 3 lane format with a center turn lane. I wouldn't allow left turns except in turn lanes. And no useless bike lanes that are never used.

If they did it my way, the pedestrians they are trying to attract would have a line of parked cars between them and traffic. And retail spaces without parking lots wouldn't be totally useless. If they were hell bent on expensive landscaping, they could sacrifice a few street parking spot for tree islands where the business owners were okay with them.

Their idea was good, but the execution was stupid. Now they have a center median with landscaping that has to be maintained, and traffic still buzzes pretty close by the sidewalk and the front doors of a lot of businesses.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96501 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:43 pm to
I used to live in CH years ago.

It was impossible to get from the stretch of CH to the east of Foster to North Blvd during rush hour because you couldn’t get across Government, you had one way going down CH to Foster, and Claycut is perpetually a clusterfrick.
Posted by facher08
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4420 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:45 pm to
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It was impossible to get from the stretch of CH to the east of Foster to North Blvd during rush hour


This is where I live. It isn't an issue anymore.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:45 pm to
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I know it’s an unpopular opinion here, but the new arrangement is actually helping traffic counts and has reduced accident counts.


You are right, but I don't think it's really helping businesses with foot traffic like they wanted. They should have forgotten the bike lanes and put in street parking.

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The flower beds would be better off with something else planted, but lots of cities have these.


They need lower maintenance things planted there if they are going to keep them. Or just throw a few native trees and some St. Augustine grass in there and call it a day. Let BR Green cover the tree plantings and let local businesses sponsor the costs like they do everywhere else with tree plantings in public right of way.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31133 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:46 pm to
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save for when the three area high schools and one grammar school let out in the afternoon. That was always a cluster.



The carpool line for Louisiana Key Academy screws everything.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11268 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:48 pm to
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You are right, but I don't think it's really helping businesses with foot traffic like they wanted. They should have forgotten the bike lanes and put in street parking.


99% of the day to day bike lane usage is by hoodrats that don't patronize most of the businesses they thought would help. And even then most of them ride on the sidewalk. They have enough sense not to risk riding in the street itself.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22708 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:48 pm to
Here’s my idea Fred: assign DPW employees to certain areas of the city. It will be incumbent on those employees to notice, maintain, and repair issues like this promptly and with city resources already available.

If the responsible party can’t get the job done, then they should be fired or demoted. If they do properly maintain or improve their area by objective measures, then they get bonuses or promoted.

This way, a small crew would have autonomy to repair the curbs and small items of disrepair without the red tape and the finger pointing.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1151 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:49 pm to
Rip them out and make alternating passing lanes. Drives me nuts to get behind someone doing 25 from Independence to downtown.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
5914 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:49 pm to
This project is a great example of when Karens and bike Nazis get the ear of influential politicians. DOTD and the City didn't want the project, they were told to do the project.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
31133 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:49 pm to
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Their idea was good, but the execution was stupid. Now they have a center median with landscaping that has to be maintained


And almost every water line get busted and sprays water in the air for a week or two.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:52 pm to
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The stretch between Acadian and South Foster is full of shock-stressing buckles and potholes.


It's pretty bad. And you are right that they are funneling more traffic there. It would have made sense to at least overlay it before they did the work on Gov Street.

The state is doing a similar thing by narrowing I-10 for construction before they even started widening Airline Highway or LA30. There's just no thought or planning. Like every project is done in a silo without contextualizing the rest of the network, often competing with each other for funding.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36239 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:53 pm to
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This is actually LADOTD.


Yes, but the project details were pushed by the locals and the parish initially put up 4.2 million dollars, the Feds put up 5.4 in safety funds and 1 million in ADA funds. The state only put up 1.1 million dollars.

It was pushed as a big safety project and an economic aid to the area.
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:55 pm to
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This project is a great example of when Karens and bike Nazis get the ear of influential politicians. DOTD and the City didn't want the project, they were told to do the project.



Including bike lanes was incredibly stupid. That severely limited the value add to taxpayers and local businesses over what a few carefully placed sections of street parking would have done.

And like it was noted earlier, you regularly see idiots in lifted/leveled trucks (or even bigger idiots in Nissan Altimas) driving over the medians and damaging the landscaping and the irrigation. If they are going to stick with this format, they should put in St. Augustine grass and plant some native trees.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted by frequent flyer
USA
Member since Jul 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:55 pm to
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It was pushed as a big safety project and an economic aid to the area.



It's probably achieved the safety goals, but it's just not doing anything from an economic standpoint....at least not anything that wasn't already going to happen.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36239 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:56 pm to
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If they had cut that through


If they had cut Jefferson through that neighborhood next to the old Fleur De Lis and arced West snd aligned Jefferson with N Blvd. they would have done some good.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5828 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:57 pm to
Need to find out the cost of the study and all project work for this fiasco.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8397 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:57 pm to
They need to build an interstate extension along the Florida Blvd corridor from the bridge out to Airline Hwy and tie into I-12.

IT would take a ton of traffic off surface streets thru BR and if done correctly, it would eliminate the current bridge bottleneck issues and lessen I-10 traffic from the bridge to the 10/12 split.

But nahhhh, its too hard to do a few miles of public domain shite along an existing highway easement. Instead lets buy NEW property and build a brand new 50 mile highway thru cane fields from Grosse Tete to St Gabriel with a bridge in the metropolis of White Castle.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96501 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:57 pm to
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There's just no thought or planning


LA budgeting and planning in a nutshell.
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