Started By
Message

WSJ: Sofas made much worse now

Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:29 am
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51406 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:29 am
If your brand new couch is falling apart, it's not your imagination. The Wall Street Journal reported:

quote:

The lifespan of your new sofa may be much shorter than you expect.

Instead of once-a-decade purchases, furniture makers and restorers say, couches are becoming more like fast fashion—produced with cheaper materials, prone to trends and headed to the landfill after just a few years. High-quality sofas still exist, pros say, but they are harder to find. Mass-market options, even those that cost over $3,000, are increasingly made with less sturdy materials and construction methods. ...

Consumers are complaining that their new couch’s cushions are lumpier, springs squeakier and frames flimsier than those of the well-loved models they replaced. ....

Melissa Newell and Jennie Fisher spent $1,945 on an Eddy reversible sectional from West Elm in 2021 to upgrade their work-from-home setup, since Fisher often works from the couch.

“It is coming apart at the seams,” says Newell, a 54-year-old nurse anesthetist in Birmingham, Ala. Photos reviewed by The Wall Street Journal show misaligned edges with staples poking out, dented back cushions and pilled fabric. ...

A West Elm spokeswoman said, “We are proud of the product that we offer, and we have seen consistent improvement in customer metrics including a decline in returns and damages.”... (Ah, metrics, the bean counters favorite word. Customer experiences may suck but as long as you meet those metrics, it's OK).


It has become kind of the Wild West,” says Adam Rogers, an independent furniture designer in Portland, Maine. “People have to choose between the right aesthetic, quality and price. If they want all three, good luck.” ...


So you want to buy a couch. What should you do?

quote:

When it comes to leather, consumers often don’t know what they’re buying, says Boyer, who is based in Frisco, Texas. The “genuine leather” touted on many mass-produced options isn’t a single skin, but a slurry of ground-up slaughterhouse scraps held together with binders and glues, he says.

Genuine leather is the furniture equivalent of cheap cashmere, pros say. Buyers should look instead for top grain cowhide, which may darken from skin oils over time but won’t flake and fall apart.

One big advantage of older sofas is their hardwood or plywood frames, says Andy Buck, a professor of furniture design at Rochester Institute of Technology. Many newer sofas use particleboard or medium-density fiberboard, which Buck describes as compressed wood chips mixed with glue.

“It doesn’t hold a screw and over time it’s very difficult to repair, especially if it gets wet,” Buck says.

The easiest way to suss out your sofa’s skeleton, he advises: Look underneath. You should be able to see if the wood pieces are interconnected with one another in what is known as mortise and tenon joinery. With more brittle couches, those connections are made with an external bracket. Wiggling the arms and backrest is also a helpful test of their stability.

Boyer says he is getting more calls to fix snapped sofas, especially when the piece has an extendible foot or backrest. “It was a rare thing before, but we are seeing that happen even with some of the upper-end of furniture producers, where people are paying $5,000 or $6,000 for a sofa,” he says.

Low-density foam is one of Boyer’s biggest pet peeves. Fifteen years ago, cushions tended to retain their shape and comfort for a decade, he says. Now, homeowners ask him for help swapping out the innards in as few as three years.





WSJ article. No paywall. Has a couple of nice diagrams of good and bad couches.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16576 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:33 am to
Also doesn’t help the average person is probably like 250lbs now
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11281 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:35 am to
Speaking of…. Best solutions for the foam issue? Any best site or local source (New Orleans) for new foam filling? Actual sofa is holding up ok to decent but the cushions are getting pretty pancaked.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120272 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Melissa Newell and Jennie Fisher spent $1,945 on an Eddy reversible sectional from West Elm in 2021 to upgrade their work-from-home setup


Of course they use a lesbian couple as their example
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13531 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Instead of once-a-decade purchases, furniture makers and restorers say, couches are becoming more like fast fashion—produced with cheaper materials, prone to trends and headed to the landfill after just a few years.
Just like everything else post-9/11. Corporations cut costs to get more money to shareholders. Everything is made with shite quality with cheap materials in Mexico and Asia now. Thanks Nafta.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120272 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Best solutions for the foam issue?


Lose weight fatty
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71409 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:37 am to
I paid 1,100 for one about a year ago understanding it'll last 4 or 5 years, but we are doing a lot to the house in those 4 to 5 years so it was worth it. It's not junk, but it's not the best either.

People that buy nice furniture and don't look underneath to confirm it's actual wood are insane to me.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51406 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:38 am to
I've bought some furniture made by a Texarkana company, Mayo. It was pretty well made.
Posted by SWCBonfire
South Texas
Member since Aug 2011
1265 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:39 am to
That link has a paywall
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:40 am to
Furniture quality is dogshit now.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51406 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:41 am to
Hmm.... didn't use to. Sorry.

Only thing I left out was personal experiences by customers. The actual info is posted above.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48548 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:41 am to
We live in a disposable world now. Everything is cheap shite.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72116 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Everything is cheap shite.
Yep.

Everything is designed to fail.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48595 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:42 am to
Furniture and appliances having to constantly be replaced is ridiculous though.
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5703 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Everything is made with shite quality with cheap materials in Mexico and Asia now.


It's even worse than that. A shite ton of furniture is made in Mississippi.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72116 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Furniture and appliances having to constantly be replaced is ridiculous though.
They are purposely designed to fall apart after a period of use.

Why sell something you never need to replace?
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27219 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:43 am to
This makes me feel great about picking out a new sofa this upcoming weekend along with a new bedroom set and mattress.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
48595 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:45 am to
Nothing lasts forever but $3k refrigerators and sofas not lasting but a couple of years is excessive.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48548 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Nothing lasts forever but $3k refrigerators and sofas not lasting but a couple of years is excessive.

I've replaced every appliance in our house in the 10.5 years we've been here and some of them need to be replaced again
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72116 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Nothing lasts forever but $3k refrigerators and sofas not lasting but a couple of years is excessive.
The expectation for most appliances is that they would last ~10 years. That is clearly no longer the case.

The design has shifted to cheap parts, plastic used instead of metal, the addition of tech that isn’t needed (my washer doesn’t need Bluetooth and my refrigerator doesn’t need a tv screen), etc.

On top of that, repair is almost always insanely expensive, making “buying new” the more economical option.

Why would any company want to make something that last forever? You immediately lose a customer in that situation.

Why make something where you get a repeat customer every 10 years, when you could get a repeat customer every 5?
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 8:54 am
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram