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re: China forces telecom carriers to cease use of foreign chips... No Intel, No Amd..etc

Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:20 pm to
Yet I’m not the one who is scared that China and Russia is going to attack us.

The 80’s called. They want their Cold War back.

Maybe we can waste a few trillion more to make you feel safer.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
7141 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:23 pm to
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Decoupling from China is a positive.


The real fun begins when China ceases to ship all the prescription medications they manufacture over here and people start dropping dead. Its coming.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14190 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Many using chinese or other foreign parts.


My new scope is made in the USA, using Chinese glass.

We'll get by without China. The reason that they are what they are is that they dumped hundreds of millions of cheap laborers on the market in the 80's when they were dirt poor. Now that China is more affluent, their labor is no longer cheap. We can get the same level of skill from Mexicans and Colombians for less AND have cheaper transportation costs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262334 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:26 pm to
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We'll get by without China.


We will need substitutes.
We have priced ourselves out of the global labor market, which our own manufacturers are trying to compete with.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424659 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Now that China is more affluent, their labor is no longer cheap. We can get the same level of skill from Mexicans and Colombians for less AND have cheaper transportation costs.




Will also solve our border crisis
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:27 pm to
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same level of skill from Mexicans and Colombians for less AND have cheaper transportation costs.


That’s why companies are fleeing China and heading to Columbia.

K
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424659 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:30 pm to
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That’s why companies are fleeing China and heading to Columbia.

Well right now in the region they're going to place like Bangladesh, Vietnam, etc., but in addition to South America they're going to Africa
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14190 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 2:57 pm to
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That’s why companies are fleeing China and heading to Columbia.

As long as they're not sending Chinese over to our hemisphere to work them, I'm good with it. Stronger Mexican, Central, and South American economies are good for us. It helps with supply chains AND immigration.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14190 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:06 pm to
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We will need substitutes.

That's what Mexico, Colombia, Thailand, and Vietnam are for. We have to decide whether we want all jobs to be American jobs or if we want affordable stuff. We can make everything here, just be prepared to pay $800 for a car stereo or $2,500 for a new cell phone.
Posted by Achilles Hill
Member since Mar 2024
233 posts
Posted on 4/12/24 at 3:09 pm to
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We have to decide whether we want all jobs to be American jobs or if we want affordable stuff


It’s pretty obvious on which way the US consumer leans.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6003 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 1:24 am to
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Relying on an adversary for key supply chain items important for national security is a bigger negative than paying more


you know we're being invaded, right? they don't GAF about "national security" unless it's illegally monitoring, harassing, and imprisoning US citizens.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13577 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:54 am to
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Let’s just say we ban all vehicles which aren’t manufactured in this country. You would limit your choices to GM, Ford or Chrysler.


Tell me you didnt just type this
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13577 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 5:57 am to
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I thought that's what we already did and this was retaliation.


This is true.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424659 posts
Posted on 4/13/24 at 7:05 am to
This is not a symmetrical reciprocation either. China is cutting off their nose to spite their face. Chinese chips are shite and if they don't have American chips to reverse engineer they're completely fricked in this area.
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