re: Ice cold air because of global warming???

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t seems that message boards or other social media are not effective places to rationally discuss climate issues. People are too dug in with their opinions and mainly want to get in the last post to make their point. Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.

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VOR - Not sure how many years you’ve been on this blue ball but I can remember ever since as a kid in the 70s, there’s been a “climate scare” of one type or another: New Ice Age, Acid Rain, the Ozone developing huge holes, Global Warming….now the modern catch-all is “Climate Change”.

Once I start to see a couple of key things happen, then I’ll start to think maybe it’s time for serious discussions

1) When I start seeing more consistent “unprecedented” instead of “worst since” events. “Worst since” means whatever has in fact occurred before.

2) These wealthy elites who lead the scare and have the means to do so start selling off their coastal estates and high-tailing it inland or to the mountains, etc. But for all the fear mongering going on, you still see an awful lot of them still purchasing and living in coastal properties that most anyone would agree are exceptional.

3) When I see leaders of the Western nations in a near panic and threatening/pleading/consistently/loudly and publicly calling out nations like China and India to get on board ASAP instead of the occasional fruitless state visit and coming back like the West alone will have to save the world, then maybe that panic and urgency is sincere.

Until then, I’m not sure what “discussions” are considered fruitful short of one being lectured and ultimately taking a knee to “the science” while the world has done pretty much what it always had over the eons and changes its climate over time.