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re: Ice cold air because of global warming???
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:28 am to VOR
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:28 am to VOR
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I will say that I don’t believe in conspiracies about some mysterious worldwide cabal promoting a phony climate
books the world economic forum suggests
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Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:28 am to dafif
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Ice cold air because of global warming?
Probably just winter.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:29 am to VOR
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I will say that I don’t believe in conspiracies about some mysterious worldwide cabal promoting a phony climate
Its the same activists that have been destroying the earth for 40 years.
Without activism, we would have clean nuclear by now, and climate change wouldnt be a thing.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:34 am to Marciano1
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They've moved the goal posts and now refer to it as "climate change"
The left does this with everything. Remember when every Republican presidential candidate was simply racist? Now they’re all white supremacists.
It’s a “boy who cried wolf” scenario. Just like “racist”, “global warming” lost its luster so they had to shift to harsher or more encompassing terms.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:34 am to ksayetiger
quote:I still want to see somebody explain why global warming, to this degree - not Venus levels, is bad.
OK let's go.
Please start with explaining the carbon cycle.
Next, explain the "ideal" atmospheric levels of CO2 and CH4
Then, please compare the affects of these two gases with the affect of the concentration of water vapor.
Thats a good start. Problem is, the climate clowns never want to discuss any of these issues
- a wetter Earth with less water locked in ice
- a warmer/wetter Earth is more arable land
- ice ages and rain shadows cause deserts
- most human population bottle necks are cold climates
- colder climates force more mass migration historically
- the bronze age collapse of the 530's BC was probably due to lack of sun or a cooling period
- little ice age of middle ages brought famine
- there is no population collapse or shrinkage globally ever tied to a warming period
- cold climates bring more diseases
- warmer climates bring more biodiversity
This ecogrifters keep saying we have too many people; maybe global warming is the solution with more arable land.
Never forget these same people who 'do it for the children' are the same ones who freak out if they can't murder babies in the womb. Maybe BOTH are about killing as many people as possible. Not about saving anyone.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:36 am to VOR
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.
here’s the answer. The climate has changed since the formation of this rock and will continue to do so until the sun envelops it. Man has nothing to do with it and can’t control it unless we cut down every tree on the planet or have a worldwide nuclear war. 
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:37 am to VOR
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion. I’ll
readily acknowledge that I don’t have answers.
I don't have any answers either.
but the fact that the climate of earth has been in continuous change like a pendulum swinging as far back as we can somewhat reliably discover, I think the odds of us humans causing it is probably pretty slim.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:38 am to Undertow
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The left does this with everything. Remember when every Republican presidential candidate was simply racist? Now they’re all white supremacists.
I’ve noticed that with the border. Here’s the evolution:
Illegal aliens
Illegal immigrants
Undocumented immigrants
Refugees
Migrants
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:43 am to VOR
quote:It's really worth reading the climategate emails. And consider how many still believe the Muh Russia! hoax. Manipulating public opinion isn't really that hard. Bernays perfected it in the 1930s.
I will say that I don’t believe in conspiracies about some mysterious worldwide cabal promoting a phony climate
crisis.
Hell, just look at the COVID "science" manipulation. Our government clearly enacted measure they knew didn't work. And they enlisted member of the "science" community to back them up. It happens. Clearly.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:45 am to VOR
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Climate change at least deserves serious study and discussion.
Only that isn’t happening, as only one narrative (we are all going to die soon, so buy electric and eat your crickets) is allowed.
Pollution, especially as it relates to plastic, is a bigger concern of mine.
The world is in a CO2 drought right now, and the plant life is suffering (trees produce an enzyme that is needed to handles “oxygen poisoning,” which in turn means they are weakened and more susceptible to weather events). Ironically, this fact has basically been banned by the MSM and social media, and instead we are told that we need to reduce our carbon footprint. To what end, starvation?
Climate catastrophism is a religion unto itself.
And this is their goddess:
And the Just Stop Oil” lunatics are their zealots.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:47 am to VOR
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Is gladly discuss if I were sufficiently educated on those subjects.
Please just explain this:
1970's: OMG Global cooling because of humans - need changes immediately or we will become extinct
1990's - 2000's : OMG Global warming because of humans - need changes immediately or we will become extinct
mid 2000's: OMG climate change caused by humans - we need changes immediately or humans will go extinct.
Common sense, even a modicum of understanding of weather, climate and the sun gives logical and sensical answers to changes in weather and climate that absolutely do not involve humans.
If the argument was changed to : Hey humans, you are creating massive pollution - lets all get together and create changes to help humanity and the planet be cleaner in the future.... not many would argue with that.
The only real answer (common sense) is that political leaders in control, want to remain in control by creating these emergencies to save the planet.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:48 am to POTUS2024
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50 years of failed predictions. It's a religion, not a science.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:00 am to dafif
Thermodynamics made so even an idiot can get the right answer!
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:08 am to VOR
As long as the earth endures,
seedtime and harvest,
cold and heat,
summer and winter,
day and night
will never cease.
Genesis 8:22
seedtime and harvest,
cold and heat,
summer and winter,
day and night
will never cease.
Genesis 8:22
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:10 am to Marciano1
A big high pressure dome developing over the North Pole, directing icy cold air southward all the way to the humid subtropics bordering the Gulf of Mexico, IS manmade global warming.
Constantly pumping carbon pollutants into the atmosphere, now reaching well into the formerly stable stratosphere, never ends well.
Constantly pumping carbon pollutants into the atmosphere, now reaching well into the formerly stable stratosphere, never ends well.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:17 am to tarzana
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Constantly pumping carbon pollutants
You mean stuff considerably heavier than 99.9% of the atmosphere?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:32 am to tenderfoot tigah
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stuff considerably heavier
CO2 is 1.5 times heavier than air, but that becomes irrelevant when convection currents are present and mixing carbon up and thrusting it upward into the STRATOSPHERE!
Increased heat, through rampant AGW, increases atmospheric convection; what's happening nowadays is anomalous stratospheric warming, which has bollixed the normal westerly flow of stratospheric currents, and it has transformed into that "beast from the East" which is funneling bitter cold southward, all the way to the Gulf of Mexico in America, and across the Mediterranean into N. Africa in the eastern hemisphere.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:36 am to GumboPot
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Probably just winter.
Follow the science, man. Enroll in an online course in atmospheric thermodynamics. It's not just winter, as you used to know it
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:36 am to tarzana
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through rampant AGW
Damn you're retarded
Posted on 12/31/23 at 12:02 pm to jimmy the leg
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The world is in a CO2 drought right now
Probably the biggest whopper I've ever seen in print. Current atmospheric CO2 levels have been measured at ~ 430 ppm, about 70% higher than what was measured only 70 years ago.
How much CO2 pollution do we need to end the "drought"? How hot is Earth's optimal temperature supposed to get?
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