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Should 49% of a country's population have to submit to 51%?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:23 pm
For all the talk about "democracy", let's say Brazil and America's elections were actually 'legitimate" (they were not). Even if so, they were only by a slim majority.
To what extent does "democracy" supersede the rights of the 49%? If Lula is instituting a Chavez like regime. Why wouldn't Brazilian Patriots attempt to overthrow it? Just because 51% of the people want the other 49% in abject slavery, that means they should just have submit to it?
There are many people on this board who would have rooted for the tank in Tiananmen Square, and called the man standing in the way an "insurrectionist" and a "threat to democracy".Remember it was Mao who originally coined the term "Right Wing Extremists" to go attack his political opponents.
Further, does this make Nat Turner and John Brown "threats to democracy"? Since what they were rebelling against was supported by the majority of those states populations at the time?
To what extent does "democracy" supersede the rights of the 49%? If Lula is instituting a Chavez like regime. Why wouldn't Brazilian Patriots attempt to overthrow it? Just because 51% of the people want the other 49% in abject slavery, that means they should just have submit to it?
There are many people on this board who would have rooted for the tank in Tiananmen Square, and called the man standing in the way an "insurrectionist" and a "threat to democracy".Remember it was Mao who originally coined the term "Right Wing Extremists" to go attack his political opponents.
Further, does this make Nat Turner and John Brown "threats to democracy"? Since what they were rebelling against was supported by the majority of those states populations at the time?
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 7:25 pm
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Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:25 pm to burger bearcat
Democracy is retarded.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:26 pm to burger bearcat
No. This is why a split of some sort is inevitable. It’s not if but when.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:27 pm to burger bearcat
This is the reason states rights are important.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:31 pm to burger bearcat
Federalism bruh. The Founders had it right. The UnFounders unfortunately murdered it circa 2008 or so.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:31 pm to burger bearcat
Should 99 wolves and 1 sheep vote on dinner? Probably not.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:31 pm to blueboxer1119
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This is the reason states rights are important.
And the whole concept of "democracy" as being some sort of sacred institution needs to be flipped upside down. There is nothing moral or good about "democracy" on its face. Especially if the majority of the country has turned towards evil. "Democracy" should never supersede Constitutional "God given rights"
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 7:32 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:33 pm to burger bearcat
Modern technology, medicine, economic systems, and other products of the last 100 or so years have created a societal scheme for the first time in human history where you have the option to sit on your arse all day and be ensured security (or the illusion thereof) with no personal risk or continue to live a life of meaning and purpose with the understanding that you also risk everything simultaneously.
In most industrialized nations, ~50-60% of the population has chosen slavery with security... but the remainders who believe in individual liberty and responsibility are not going to see their children starving and in chains without death and destruction following first.
It's quite a bad situation as we enter the 21st Century. A century that could have created wonderous human achievement and progress... but will be much more likely to usher in the end of humanity.
In most industrialized nations, ~50-60% of the population has chosen slavery with security... but the remainders who believe in individual liberty and responsibility are not going to see their children starving and in chains without death and destruction following first.
It's quite a bad situation as we enter the 21st Century. A century that could have created wonderous human achievement and progress... but will be much more likely to usher in the end of humanity.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:35 pm to burger bearcat
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For all the talk about "democracy", let's say Brazil and America's elections were actually 'legitimate" (they were not). Even if so, they were only by a slim majority.
To what extent does "democracy" supersede the rights of the 49%? If Lula is instituting a Chavez like regime. Why wouldn't Brazilian Patriots attempt to overthrow it? Just because 51% of the people want the other 49% in abject slavery, that means they should just have submit to it?
There are many people on this board who would have rooted for the tank in Tiananmen Square, and called the man standing in the way an "insurrectionist" and a "threat to democracy".Remember it was Mao who originally coined the term "Right Wing Extremists" to go attack his political opponents.
Further, does this make Nat Turner and John Brown "threats to democracy"? Since what they were rebelling against was supported by the majority of those states populations at the time?
republics are the way to go....tyranny of the majority is a real thing.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:36 pm to oklahogjr
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Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other
John Adams
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:37 pm to Pookers
What if 100 people with IQ under 75 vote and 25 people with over 140 IQ vote. The dumber society becomes - we all lose. You can’t do anything with dummies.
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:41 pm to burger bearcat
Great question. I have asked it many times.
How in the hell do the retards think they can get away with forcing THEIR narrative on J6, on elections - it is as though they are forcing vaxx mandates. Quite an absurdity, and frankly lowbrow ignorant perspective. amd dangerous
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
How in the hell do the retards think they can get away with forcing THEIR narrative on J6, on elections - it is as though they are forcing vaxx mandates. Quite an absurdity, and frankly lowbrow ignorant perspective. amd dangerous
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire
This post was edited on 1/9/23 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:41 pm to Lsupimp
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Federalism bruh. The Founders had it right. The UnFounders unfortunately murdered it circa 2008 or so.
Bruh, Lincoln killed the republic along time ago. And a good portion of the founders were big government statist retards (Hamilton).
Jefferson called things correctly but his vision for the nation was murdered in the civil war and after via reconstruction.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 7:44 pm to burger bearcat
That’s why we have a Constitution and the courts. The majority doesn’t always get what they want.
Besides we have a Republic. The majority doesn’t pick the president. States are given equal weight in the Senate. There are checks built into our system.
Besides we have a Republic. The majority doesn’t pick the president. States are given equal weight in the Senate. There are checks built into our system.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:15 pm to burger bearcat
actually its not 49 to 51.
its more like 24 to 25.
49% do not vote.
70% register and of those who register under 70% vote.
.7 x .7 = .49
and yes we as a society agree that whomever wins wins and the losers do not pretend they really won.
its more like 24 to 25.
49% do not vote.
70% register and of those who register under 70% vote.
.7 x .7 = .49
and yes we as a society agree that whomever wins wins and the losers do not pretend they really won.
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:18 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
Who redefined our military and with whose consent? Who proclaimed that our chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff could call his Chinese Communist counterpart to warn him that America’s president was supposedly unstable? Was it always true that retired generals routinely libeled their commander-in-chief as a near Nazi, a Mussolini, an adherent of the tools of Auschwitz?
Were Americans ever asked whether their universities could discriminate against their sons and daughters based on their race? How did it become physically dangerous to speak the truth on a campus? Whose idea was it to reboot racial segregation and bias as “theme houses,” “safe spaces,” and “diversity”? How did that happen in America?
How did a virus cancel the Constitution? Did the lockdowns rob us of our sanity? Or was it the woke hysteria that ignited our collective madness?
Were Americans ever asked whether their universities could discriminate against their sons and daughters based on their race? How did it become physically dangerous to speak the truth on a campus? Whose idea was it to reboot racial segregation and bias as “theme houses,” “safe spaces,” and “diversity”? How did that happen in America?
How did a virus cancel the Constitution? Did the lockdowns rob us of our sanity? Or was it the woke hysteria that ignited our collective madness?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:22 pm to burger bearcat
Thought the republicans ended slavery
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:23 pm to burger bearcat
If you really think about it, having a governing body that designed to control the population, is somewhat scary. Are we really free?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:24 pm to burger bearcat
Should 51% submit to 49%?
Posted on 1/9/23 at 8:25 pm to Pookers
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Democracy is retarded.
Democracy of any type is a race to the bottom.
Its doomed from the start, the poor and lazy will eventually win.
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