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re: Tucker Carlson has divided conservative social media with his take on the atomic bomb
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:09 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:09 pm to RollTide1987
Easy way to express Tucker thoughts I believe is to say that there is no good way to stress using. It just needed done at the time. It’s best obviously to never need to use
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Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:09 pm to Robin Masters
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This.
And don’t forgot Dec 7, 1941 was unprovoked.
Japan is the quintessential FAFO.
I'm not saying Japan was justified attacking Pearl Harbor but to say it was unprovoked is so laughable.
I swear the state of the education in this country is a joke. yes America had every right to embargo oil to Japan. they were encroaching on US interests in Asia. Japan technically attacked the US when it invaded the Philippines because that region used to belong to the US. Philippines was US territory until after WW2 when we granted them independence.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:10 pm to Figgy
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The alternative was far far worse.
yup
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It was a horrible decision that had to be made but it was the correct one. Tucker is out of his mind. Context matters greatly here.
yup. japanaese fought gallantly and til the end in most battles. taking the mainland would have cost way more lives.
This post was edited on 4/22/24 at 10:58 am
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:11 pm to RollTide1987
1.) There's obviously more context to whatever the original question was that they start to address at the end of the video.
2.) Hindsight is 20/20, and there's nothing like Monday-morning quarterbacking a decision made during a global war. Let's not pretend that any of us know what it was like to be in the shoes of the people who made that call.
2.) Hindsight is 20/20, and there's nothing like Monday-morning quarterbacking a decision made during a global war. Let's not pretend that any of us know what it was like to be in the shoes of the people who made that call.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:11 pm to Rebel
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quote:No he clearly said if you defend dropping the bombs you are evil. well let's see. quote:"My 'side' has spent the last 80 years defending the dropping of nuclear bombs on civilians...like, are you joking? If you find yourself arguing that it's a good thing to drop nuclear weapons on people, then you are evil." quote:that it's a good thing quote:good thing i agree. it wasn't good. it was a necessary evil.
But that’s not what he actually said.
This is not a direct transcript.
Watch the video
He clearly says that there is no way you can justify it.
He’s spouting commie propaganda and you are going along
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:12 pm to RollTide1987
tucker is correct.
also, the japanese were indeed considering surrendering before nukes were used. they were already demoralized by the soviets invading. their emperor wouldn't have let tokyo get destroyed
also, the japanese were indeed considering surrendering before nukes were used. they were already demoralized by the soviets invading. their emperor wouldn't have let tokyo get destroyed
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:13 pm to Adam Banks
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He’s spouting commie propaganda and you are going along
He’s not spouting communism.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:13 pm to RollTide1987
I like Tucker.
He's just wrong here. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved Japanese lives.
Period.
He's just wrong here. The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved Japanese lives.
Period.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:15 pm to Fat Bastard
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yup. japs fought gallantly
My grandfather would kick your arse for saying this.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:16 pm to thermal9221
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He’s not spouting communism.
He’s spouting commie propaganda about how America is evil.
He could fit right in with the crowds burning the us flag in the Middle East
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:16 pm to TerryDawg03
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Hindsight is 20/20, and there's nothing like Monday-morning quarterbacking a decision made during a global war. Let's not pretend that any of us know what it was like to be in the shoes of the people who made that call.
True. You can hardly get bigger Monday morning QBing than some of these ol’ baws sitting here in 2024 and acting like they would’ve known how to better handle 1945. smh.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:19 pm to Nosevens
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Easy way to express Tucker thoughts I believe is to say that there is no good way to stress using. It just needed done at the time. It’s best obviously to never need to use
No that’s not what he was saying.
That’s what you want him to be saying.
The quote in the tweet is not a transcription of what he said.
Did you watch the video?
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:19 pm to Goonie02
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I'm not saying Japan was justified attacking Pearl Harbor but to say it was unprovoked is so laughable.
I swear the state of the education in this country is a joke. yes America had every right to embargo oil to Japan. they were encroaching on US interests in Asia. Japan technically attacked the US when it invaded the Philippines because that region used to belong to the US. Philippines was US territory until after WW2 when we granted them independence.
I think you're confusing provoked with random. No, the attack wasn't a random action taken by Japan. There was history behind it. But it was unprovoked.
Said another way, if I call you a name and you punch me for it, that punch was provoked. If, however, you wait until nightfall, and block all the windows and doors to my home and burn it down with numerous people inside... That's unprovoked.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:22 pm to Azkiger
Metallica’s “Am I Evil?” … fyi only…cover of song done previously by Diamond Head.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:23 pm to Adam Banks
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He’s spouting commie propaganda and you are going along
Just 20/20 hindsight that means nothing, zero, nada, zip.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:23 pm to Adam Banks
I listened to the whole podcast.
He’s talking about how awful nukes are.
There’s no way you’re not a flamboyant white gay person. I’m serious, you’re a bitch arse soft dude.
He’s talking about how awful nukes are.
There’s no way you’re not a flamboyant white gay person. I’m serious, you’re a bitch arse soft dude.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:25 pm to thermal9221
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He’s talking about how awful nukes are.
It's why they haven't been used since. And the yields now are much more powerful. It's easy in one's minds eye to scale up what happened in Japan and to be appalled. But as I said, this had to start somewhere.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:25 pm to Boodis Man
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also, the japanese were indeed considering surrendering before nukes were used.
Atomic bombs were dropped 3 years after the Battle of Midway (when the war was realistically over).
Again, they didn't even surrender after the first bomb.
This post was edited on 4/21/24 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:27 pm to Boodis Man
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tucker is correct.
No, Tucker is not. Like Trump, Tucker CAN be wrong.
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:28 pm to thermal9221
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I listened to the whole podcast.
He’s talking about how awful nukes are.
Oh wow, deep stuff. I had thought nukes were just like fireworks until I listened... But now I know that they really are awful.
Why are we making weapons that are awful?
You can't even hug your children with nuclear arms...
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