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Where does it stop with the Ukraine grift?

Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37540 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:14 am
How long until another “aid” package?
After this one does nothing

Mark my words they will push a $100+ Billion dollar bill in the summer months

Joke
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53478 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:15 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118875 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:18 am to
All these NGO and MIC businesses were created from the Iraq then Afghanistan wars are trying to stay afloat. Billions were flowing to these entities and of course money was flowing back to congressional politicians.

Once we left Afghanistan they needed a new grift. Ukraine is filling that bill.

There is probably collusion between Russia and the U.S. with the this Ukraine war. Putin is probably making bank off it too. It's a win/win for Biden and Putin. frick the American and Russian people.
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
803 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:19 am to
It'll happen like this

>Lines will start to collapse
>Articles about deplted man power
>Articles about Ukraine ignoring NATO doctrine and it's their fault
>Reveal of massive losses to their army
>Articles showing Ukraine officals misusing funds and corruption
>Ukraine no longer have enough soliders to defend positions

Nato will throw Ukraine under the bus and blame them for the loss because they didn't listen and corruption. The west will start to push Ukraine to negoitate due to the "new" findings. Zelensky will step down and flee to Europe and a new west pupet will be put in to broker a deal.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79243 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:19 am to
No doubt Bunk. It's going to happen.

Our GOP is complicit in this grift and until they are voted out, there is no recourse.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118875 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:21 am to
Putin and Biden want this war. They are big financial winners.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73916 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:22 am to
I was banned for a year cause I "posted in the Ukraine thread" stating russia wanted the resources and lolin at all the mierda they were posting


Only to be right yet again
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26441 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:23 am to
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Where does it stop with the Ukraine grift?

I think its only going to get worse. Whenever it eventually ends, regardless of outcome, the calls will come to send ungodly amounts of money over there to "rebuild."

Get ready for Marshall Plan comparisons 24/7.
This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 10:26 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19558 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:25 am to
Over 80% of that 60 billion is going to be spent on replenishing, upgrading and ramping up American arms.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118875 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:25 am to
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Whenever it eventually ends,


It won't end in Ukraine until another war theater is created.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118875 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Over 80% of that 60 billion is going to be spent on replenishing, upgrading and ramping up American arms.



Why couldn't this have been passed with the regular $1 trillion that we give the DoD every year?
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:27 am to
it'll stop when putin bleeds us out so that we can't provide for our own military.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140571 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:28 am to
It’s fine. Trump got them to borrow the money going forward. We will get it back. No worries.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48425 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:28 am to
Jesse Kelley is absolutely right and yes it is coming.

The US taxpayer will pay to rebuild a new Ukraine that is solidly in the Russian orbit of power.

Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
803 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:31 am to
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Over 80% of that 60 billion is going to be spent on replenishing, upgrading and ramping up American arms.


Why do we need to replenish American arms is their a conflict causing our arm to be depleted?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26824 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:33 am to
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Why couldn't this have been passed with the regular $1 trillion that we give the DoD every year?


Shh! That kind of comment messes up the talking points. Don't you understand that this was all 4D chess to get rid of our obsolete weapons?
Posted by RaoulDuke504
Member since Aug 2023
803 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:34 am to
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Over 80% of that 60 billion is going to be spent on replenishing, upgrading and ramping up American arms.



This post was edited on 4/23/24 at 10:35 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50342 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:34 am to
It will never end. They impeached the last President for trying to stop it. They will stop at nothing to keep taking our money and buying themselves million dollar mansions.

10% for the Big Guy!
Posted by GoblinGuide
Member since Nov 2017
1628 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 10:48 am to
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They impeached the last President for trying to stop


He didn't try to stop it. He was perfectly willing to send money to Ukraine. He got impeached because he tried to trade Congressionally approved funds for dirt on his political opponent. Slight difference.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118875 posts
Posted on 4/23/24 at 11:07 am to
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He didn't try to stop it. He was perfectly willing to send money to Ukraine.


Misleading. The money was appropriated by congress. Trump was legally obligated to send money to Ukraine via the U.S. Treasury.

quote:

He got impeached because he tried to trade Congressionally approved funds for dirt on his political opponent.


That's the story then there is what really happened.

Trump directed the money appropriated for Ukraine from the U.S. Treasury to the DoD and they spent the money on Raytheon Stinger Missiles and the missiles where shipped to Ukraine.

The old way of doing things was to direct the money from the U.S. Treasury to the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. From Marie she would then dole out the cash to her favorite contractors and NGOs to "help Ukraine".

Trump blocked the politicians cut from Ukrainian appropriations. That's the real reason they impeached him. It was payback.
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