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I have a Denon receiver, about a year old and

Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Tigeralltheway
Member since Jan 2014
2571 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:26 pm
For Easter, I was playing music outside on zone 2 (4 speakers). After about 2 hours, receiver shut off and said Over heated on screen.

It actually screwed up my breaker, and now needs replacing. Breaker wont stay on.

Anyone know what the issue is or how to fix? Do I need a cooling fan to fix it or is something else up? I can’t imagine this is a normal thing.

The receiver is in built in that stays open all the time.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6410 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:25 pm to
Isn't the answer always ventilation above and behind?
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:27 pm to
Ventilation or four speakers improperly hooked up. Wrong impedance is not a good thing.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25617 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:31 pm to
Which receiver, what is the nominal impedance of the speakers and how were they hooked up to the second zone of the receiver?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
6410 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:57 pm to
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nominal impedance

quote:

Obtuse1

You don't say. He probably has no idea, which isn't a problem. Talking about ohms with someone (no offense at all, OP) who doesn't get electronics isn't productive to help them.

Always go for the simplest answer first.
Posted by Tigeralltheway
Member since Jan 2014
2571 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:31 pm to
Absolutely lost!

It worked fine with my old receiver an onkyo.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25617 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:28 pm to
quote:

You don't say. He probably has no idea, which isn't a problem. Talking about ohms with someone (no offense at all, OP) who doesn't get electronics isn't productive to help them.

Always go for the simplest answer first.


The simple answer MAY be ventilation but given the fault caused a load center issue with the breaker it is better to fully diagnose the fault especially when it takes a long time to reproduce. Denon receivers are not known to run hot like say a Onkyo so they work better in enclosed spaces. Asking the nominal impedance of the speaker gives a view into how much a person knows. If he doesn't know then I would ask the Brand and model and look it up myself. If one assumes like you did he doesn't understand the electrical properties of his system he may be presenting way too much of a load to the receiver. The answer may be as simple as ventilation but it may be as simple as he is running the speakers in series off a single amp and presenting too much of a load which can cause overheating even with adequate ventilation.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23917 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 7:21 am to
quote:

Which receiver, what is the nominal impedance of the speakers and how were they hooked up to the second zone of the receiver?


Thanks for saving me the typing.


Basic but effective....



In the OP's defense, damage to one or more of the speakers could cause the normal impedance to change which could lead to overheating.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 7:26 am
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17979 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 8:19 am to
Denon AVRs have always run hot. There is a simple solution, though, if it is basic overheating issues.

LINK /

Get one of the aircom AVR coolers. There are several types. Be sure to get the one that exhaust air in the proper direction. If your AVR is in a cubby/space with a door in front, you need openings in the rear of the cubby and you want to get an aircom with rear discharge. If your AVR is in an open front cubby/space, you want to get an aircom with front discharge.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35523 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:28 pm to
Series wiring is a terrible idea anyway as the last speaker in the chain will not play as loud as the first and as your chart noted impedance gets f'd up in a big way.

I know you know this.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23917 posts
Posted on 4/10/24 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

I know you know this.


I do. Another downfall is, if one of your speakers fails, they will all stop playing.

My best buddy and I dabbled in car audio in the late 80's - early 90's He was the first person I know that built isobaric/bandpass boxes. Wiring 2 4 or 8 speakers parallel or in series is easy to make the impedance work. 6, 10 or 12 not so much.

If I were the OP, the first thing I'd do is disconnect the speaker wires from the receiver and test the impedance of the system with a multimeter.
This post was edited on 4/10/24 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13340 posts
Posted on 4/17/24 at 7:38 pm to
Buy Yamaha.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81617 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:16 am to
I know diddly squat about all this, but what works for me(8 speakers) is one of those impedance matching selector switch thingies. Each set is run to its own output. Never had an issue and I think it sounds great.
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