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Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:35 pm
Posted by bigboy13
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:35 pm
Outside of the SWAC and ULL for 2 years and Tulane (4 years): has ANY other school had a black HC? and La College doest count. You make more as a HS then there ..
With over 65% of the team being black, why not coaches?
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:37 pm to
I think Jerry Baldwin set black coaches back two generations.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42574 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:40 pm to
Legit question. Probably lack of overall experience but more are coordinators so I would expect to see the % change.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:46 pm to
Black people are 13% of the population, but 65% of the players. That's because they're better at playing than their white counterparts.

Why is it so hard to believe the opposite is true when it comes to coaching?
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 8:47 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15971 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:48 pm to
Croom

Big guy at East Carolina: Ruffin?

FSU, Oregon: Taggart

Strong: South Florida and Louisville

Stanford



Vandy

Franklin at PSU
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4713 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:18 pm to
Herm Edwards and Sumlin I’m the PAC 12
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4713 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:21 pm to
Complete list as of start of season:

1. Dino Babers Syracuse ACC
2. James Franklin Penn State Big Ten
3. Derek Mason Vanderbilt SEC
4. David Shaw Stanford PAC 12
5. Lovie Smith Illinois Big Ten
6. Charlie Strong USF American Athletic
7. Willie Taggart Florida State ACC
8. Frank Wilson USTA USA
9. Herm Edwards Arizona State PAC 12
10. Kevin Sumlin Arizona PAC 12
11. Mel Tucker Colorado PAC 12
12. Mike Locksley Maryland Big Ten
13. Thomas Hammock Northern Illinois MAC
Posted by Coach7
GA
Member since Apr 2016
478 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:21 pm to
More have to be coordinators first before they can be HC.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120397 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

Franklin at PSU


Cornball brotha
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:16 pm to
This was a topic 10 years ago.
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Outside of the SWAC and ULL for 2 years and Tulane (4 years): has ANY other school had a black HC? and La College doest count. You make more as a HS then there ..
With over 65% of the team being black, why not coaches?


Just in the SEC: Croom, Sumlin, Franklin, and Mason.

As others have mentioned: Taggart at Oregon/FSU and Herm Edwards at Arizona State.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80427 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 11:59 pm to
quote:

has ANY other school had a black HC?


Seriously?

-Charlie Strong: Louisville, t.u., South Florida
-Willie Taggart: South Florida, Western Kentucky, Oregon, Florida State
-Randy Shannon: Miami
-Sylvester Croom: Mississippi State
-Kevin Sumlin: Houston, Texas A&M, Arizona
-James Franklin: Vanderbilt, Penn State
-Ruffin McNeal: East Carolina
-Ron Prince: Kansas State
-Turner Gill: Buffalo, Kansas
-Tyrone Willingham: Washington, Notre Dame
-Dino Babers: Bowling Green, Syracuse
-Herm Edwards: Arizona State
-Derek Mason: Vanderbilt
-David Shaw: Stanford
-Lovie Smith: Illinois
-Mike Locksley: Maryland
-Frank Wilson: Texas-San Antonio
-Mel Tucker: Colorado

That's just off the top of my head
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 12:01 am
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 12:33 am to
On top of what has already been said, I think the whole woke PC thing has a little to do with it as well. Look at FSU, Willie clearly was screwing the pooch and when he got fired after 2 years ppl were up in arms screaming racism,saying Norvell better get fired after the same timeframe if he doesn't win a natty ect ect.

No AD wants to deal with that shite.
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
Member since Jun 2010
1813 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:02 am to
quote:

That’s just off the top of my head


Considering you edited the post a doubt that was off the top of your head. Plus who could actually spout off that many black head coaches at irrelevant schools anyways without looking it up. I know I couldn’t so I doubt you could as well.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38954 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 4:47 am to
quote:

Legit question.


No it’s not. This is one of the dumbest threads I’ve seen on this board.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6093 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 6:02 am to
quote:

Why is it so hard to believe the opposite is true when it comes to coaching?

Because there is zero objective evidence to support that notion.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 7:26 am to
quote:

Outside of the SWAC and ULL for 2 years and Tulane (4 years): has ANY other school had a black HC?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57770 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 8:24 am to
Pretty much everyone from that list has been terrible.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Because there is zero objective evidence to support that notion


There is, but it's dismissed.

How many black coaches have won their conference, or national championships?

How many of them have won Super Bowls?

If they were demonstrably better than their white peers, then those numbers would be much higher despite their low number of opportunities (as is with black players vs population percentage).

A good coach is a good coach regardless of how much melanin is in their skin. Let's not try to pretend people don't hire black coaches because they're black anymore.
This post was edited on 1/4/20 at 9:43 am
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