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How is this different than a state leaving the US.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:35 pm
This is the equivalent of Texas leaving the United States. What do you think our the current admistration would do to the citizens of Texas if they were to try to leave the United States? I don't disagree with Ukraine being a sovereign nation but aren't we being a little hypocritical if we wouldn't be ok with states seceding from our country because they feel like their being used and not accurately represented. I see libs getting all worked up over this knowing that if their cash cow threatened to leave them they would take it back with force. For the record I am pro independent nation and FJB.
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:37 pm to ElVick
I'm okay with a state leaving but Mr. Lincoln might feel differently
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:37 pm to ElVick
It's just impossible to compare the history on any level.
It's apples to buttons
It's apples to buttons
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:37 pm to ElVick
Imagine Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana seceding together and taking most of the O&G production with them?
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:38 pm to ElVick
What?
It's like if Texas left the US and the US granted it and then thirty years later just took it back by force.
It's like if Texas left the US and the US granted it and then thirty years later just took it back by force.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:39 pm to ElVick
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This is the equivalent of Texas leaving the United States
Not at all.
This is like us telling Mexico, hey there is a portion of your country that doesn't want to be with you so we are coming to liberate it
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:39 pm to ElVick
Considering the entire USSR collapsed, this wasn’t a case of some random state saying “Peace, we outta here.”
The better comparison would be one massive US state, such as California, having lost control of the US 30 years ago and deciding now that they are going to invade former US states to pull it off.
The better comparison would be one massive US state, such as California, having lost control of the US 30 years ago and deciding now that they are going to invade former US states to pull it off.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:40 pm to ElVick
quote:How is it in any way similar? You need to quit typing and go do some reading.
How is this different than a state leaving the US.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:40 pm to Blutarsky
Well that sounds like a dream come true!!!
That’s the best gosh damn bed time story I’ve read in a long time!
That’s the best gosh damn bed time story I’ve read in a long time!
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:40 pm to ElVick
quote:
How is this different than a state leaving the US.
Ukraine isn't being aggressive against the (alleged) separatists
That was easy. Next question
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:41 pm to ElVick
quote:
This is the equivalent of Texas leaving the United States.
Man you have got to pay more attention to what is going on if you are going to start threads about it. Just pitiful.
Ukraine is not Russia and never was.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:41 pm to ElVick
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This is the equivalent of Texas leaving the United State
Are you fricking stupid? People like you posting here make me wonder why I waste my time reading any of this shite.
Ukraine is not a part of Russia. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and has been for 30 years.
Texas is a part of the United States, contributes to, pays into, and benefits from the United States, if leaving it would be leaving a mutual partnership.
How in the hell do you get to a point in your mind that those two things are comparable.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:42 pm to Reservoir Ag
quote:
Well that sounds like a dream come true!!! That’s the best gosh damn bed time story I’ve read in a long time!
Let’s make it happen!
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:45 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
So your saying Ukraine was not part of the USSR from 1922 until 1991?
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:46 pm to ElVick
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So your saying Ukraine was not part of the USSR from 1922 until 1991?
See bolded from your own remark.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:47 pm to ElVick
USSR and Russia are two different but related entities. Similar but not exactly the same.
USSR is like the United States as an aggressive empire.
Russia was the single biggest Soviet republic within the USSR and had most of the power but it wasn’t the entire USSR. You also had Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, etc.
USSR is like the United States as an aggressive empire.
Russia was the single biggest Soviet republic within the USSR and had most of the power but it wasn’t the entire USSR. You also had Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia, Lithuania, etc.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:48 pm to Bama Bird
quote:You know what Lincoln would be doing if he were alive now?
Mr. Lincoln might feel differently
Scratching at the top of his coffin
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:48 pm to Kafka
I was going to say “Asking where the back of his fricking head is.”
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:51 pm to Mizzoufan26
What was the USSR and how is that not equivalent? Im not calling names but they were a state under Russian control for 60+ years. The Soviet Union fell and they were unable to hold their union together. Now Putin is attempting to collect what he sees as rogue states. I think Ukraine should be free and sovereign. But do you honestly believe the US would not do the same thing to keep one of its most valuable states from leaving the union.
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:51 pm to Mizzoufan26
Here's some comparisons. Texas was once a "sovereign nation" like Ukraine. In quotes because its legitimacy as a truly sovereign nation is a matter of perspective like Ukraine. Texas had many Americans and pro America factions like Ukraine had pro Russia elements. The eventual annexation of Texas by America was met with condemnation from international powers and sparked a war. America won so might makes right. Of course the really big difference is the lack of connection between America and Texas the previous 1000 years like "the Ukraine" literally "the Borderland" of the Russian Empire long predating 1990 or 1917
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