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re: Could the fake punt be used as a primary formation for an offense?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:27 pm to cbree88
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:27 pm to cbree88
Lots of responses bashing the OP, yet not one rational thought to as why they think this wouldn’t work.
Seems like the great offensive minds of the rant would be able to give a legit explanation
Seems like the great offensive minds of the rant would be able to give a legit explanation
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:29 pm to cbree88
No.
And why is this on Tiger Rant?
And why is this on Tiger Rant?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:36 pm to chalmetteowl
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i mean Evangel won state championships with it
First thing I thought of.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:43 pm to JOJO Hammer
quote:Someone mentioned the Evangel offense, which was very close.
Lots of responses bashing the OP, yet not one rational thought to as why they think this wouldn’t work.
Seems like the great offensive minds of the rant would be able to give a legit explanation
Basically you need that matchup- a QB with a D1 arm, going against average HS caliber defense, where the players are a bit confused. You throw 20 yd outs for 5-8 yd gains, hope your WR breaks a tackle. Or you throw a bomb, and hope the safeties aren't expecting you to get it over their head (because their guy couldn't from that far back).
QB passes every damn down.
That's fine to run, if you're a D1, basically good Sun Belt level team with some SEC WRs and a legit prospect at QB, and you're facing Broadmoor. If the talent's remotely equal, it's a disaster after one series.
And to point something out you might not realize: You only have 2 guys in patterns. That 3 man shield are your backs.
I guess you can devise some screens to one of them, if you have a Reggie Bush in that group.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 8:50 pm to cbree88
Defense would easily contain it
Posted on 5/10/22 at 9:44 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:05 pm to Scoob
The key to that Evangel offense was that opppsing defenses weren’t used to seeing a high school offense throw 30 times a game… most teams ran, so most defenses were built to stop the run
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:18 pm to cbree88
wow
just…… fricking wow
just…… fricking wow
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:20 pm to chalmetteowl
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i mean Evangel won state championships with it
This was my immediate thought. #brockberlin
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:23 pm to cbree88
First day watching football?
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:39 pm to Gaston
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My son threw one pass last year, for varsity, and it was intercepted from a punt formation.
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Posted on 5/10/22 at 10:52 pm to cbree88
Yeah. As soon as they get new football bats
Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:13 am to Gaston
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My son threw one pass last year, for varsity, and it was intercepted from a punt formation.
Sounds like a future Tiger.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 12:17 am to cbree88
You have to consider the increased risk of mishandled snaps due to the longer distance between OC and QB. Doubt the risk/reward would be worth it.
This post was edited on 5/11/22 at 12:23 am
Posted on 5/11/22 at 1:16 am to cbree88
When I was 7 or 8 years old, I would sit in class and dream up offensive formations in my notebook. I came up with a scheme where 10 offensive linemen would line up in a double-thick V formation, with the QB tucked into the protective safety of the V.
When the ball was snapped, all 11 players would charge forward, slamming through the defense like a snow plow.
It worked like a charm on paper, and it also worked well on the electric football game with the vibrating metal field. Maybe LSU should try it.
When the ball was snapped, all 11 players would charge forward, slamming through the defense like a snow plow.
It worked like a charm on paper, and it also worked well on the electric football game with the vibrating metal field. Maybe LSU should try it.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 6:49 am to cbree88
Well, not a true punt formation, but my little guy, in high school & college, was a QB that mastered the rugby kick pretty well. Depending upon field position, they often gave him the option. Read the D, roll left or right, run, pass or kick on the run. It was pretty effective.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 7:21 am to cbree88
I'm laughing at all the idiots crapping on your idea.
The "shotgun" formation was once called the "short punt" formation. It wasn't run exactly like you described, but taking the QB out from under center and taking a direct snap was considered an innovation at one time.
Perhaps all of the Rant experts could tell us whatever happened to that.
The "shotgun" formation was once called the "short punt" formation. It wasn't run exactly like you described, but taking the QB out from under center and taking a direct snap was considered an innovation at one time.
Perhaps all of the Rant experts could tell us whatever happened to that.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 7:22 am to cbree88
It worked great in one of the old NCAA football games. I ran fake punt every play with Michael Vick as punter. He scored every time.
In real life, it’s a stupid idea.
In real life, it’s a stupid idea.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:02 am to JOJO Hammer
quote:Eleven players on the field.
Lots of responses bashing the OP, yet not one rational thought to as why they think this wouldn’t work.
Seems like the great offensive minds of the rant would be able to give a legit explanation
Seven players must be on the line of scrimmage.
On the line of scrimmage, only the ends are eligible receivers; five players are ineligible on every play.
Six eligible receivers, but of course, one is throwing the ball.
In the OP's punt formation, three players are used in the second wall. Accordingly, there are only two possible receivers.
Cam Cameron is the OP.
Posted on 5/11/22 at 8:07 am to cbree88
The "Short Punt" formation was a single wing passing formation used by early teams to take advantage of the forward pass rule by spreading defenses out. It was still a solid run formation, though not nearly as reliable as the traditional single wing. It wasn't uncommon to see plenty of early down kicks as part of game strategy either. Michigan used it under Fielding Yost, at Vanderbilt under Dan McGuin, and at Princeton under Bill Roper. The NFL's NY Giants used it as a base formation under Benny Friedman in 1931, and the Bears shifted to it in the 1956 Championship after falling behind. TCU used a variation of the Short Punt formation under Dutch Meyers, in which they would use 2 wingbacks as opposed to just one.
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