re: DeSantis Slammed for Using National Crisis to Criticize Trump: Poor Timing Criticized

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He’ll do that if/when he runs.

This idea that DeSantis could somehow run and somehow NOT frick himself with Trump’s base is fantasy island bullshite. They’ll never accept any criticism as legitimate, because they never have.

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They will circular argue us to death on this. "DeSantis can't win without us!" but also "even the slightest and most deserved criticism of Trump won't be tolerated and will lead to a lifelong blood feud! None of my children or children's children will ever speak the name Ron DeSantis!"

It's a joke. Some of them know full well that they're leveraging the threat of loss in 2024 to get their guy, but some of them really think they're honest dealers here.

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there isn't any issue more real & more important to push back against than Dems weaponizing the government to target their political opponents.

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The governor who fired a DA for enforcing the law through a political filter doesn't get that?

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I don't know if he can win; nobody does. All I've said is that I think he has a better chance than Trump.

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I don't think that's the argument. It's certainly not something I'm arguing with. I'm not saying Desantis can't beat Trump or that he can't win in a vacuum against Biden. I'm saying he can't do that if he alienates Trump's base.

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You mean like he's been doing for the months prior to answering a single question? Yeah, the cult loved him then.

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Pretty much. Yes.

You are confusing Trump's base voting in the primary vs. his base voting in the general. Trump's base of course is going to promote Trump and attack his opponents. But, Desantis needs to preserve his good will in the event he beats Trump.

It's a tough spot. It's why there were A TON of people who thought it was a bad idea for Desantis to run this cycle. It was always going to be tough to get through unscathed.

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Yeah, because that's anybody that's not in the Trump camp.

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The Lincoln Project. Paul Ryan. The Bush's. Romney's. Cheney's. McCains.

These are the people who you are aligned with.

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The dishonesty here is the claim that there was some way DeSantis could thread the needle and run against Trump and not cause the cult to go apoplectic

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"The cult". It's so simple-minded. There is a significant number of Republican voters that think our country is at a real risk of being lost. They think we have been bought and sold. They think that there are enemies within the Republican party and of course in the Democratic party. And, they believe the government is weaponized in many ways against them.

Those people will vote for Trump. And, there are enough of them that it was a huge mistake by choosing to go after Trump for Stormy fricking Daniels in the middle of a question about a political prosecution meant to eliminate an opposing presidential candidate.

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I'm saying he can't do that if he alienates Trump's base.

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DeSantis can't stop them if they're determined to be alienated. They've made their minds up that Trump is the guy. It's his turn...again. Anyone who threatens that will inherently draw their derision.

DeSantis needs to keep doing exactly what he's doing. That will lose him some of the diehards, but they're lost anyway.

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They will circular argue us to death on this. "DeSantis can't win without us!" but also "even the slightest and most deserved criticism of Trump won't be tolerated

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Taking a light stance on Democrats using the power of the government to prosecute and take Trump out of the race is not an example of "the slightest most deserved criticism of Trump".

I'm struggling to think of a worst example of "the slightest criticism" than that.

A lot of people (myself included) has always liked Desantis and liked what he did as governor. People like me really want to like him.

But, people like me also place zero in the Republican party itself. I'm not loyal to the Republican party. I'm not even a registered Republican.

You are a party loyalist. It's important to you. It's not to me. Frankly, I think the status quo of the Republican party is a major problem with our country.

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Translation: DeSantis can't run, it's personally offensive to me, Trump 4 lyfe

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He can run. You can vote for him. You may find out that you don't have enough votes without the Trump voters to win in a general. Sorry. That's the simple reality. I realize it hurts. And, you lash out.

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It's a tough spot because I and my friends will personally see to it that DeSantis loses even if he absolutely crushes Trump on substance. He's my hero. I love him.

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By not voting for him? You don't own my vote, you piece of shite. You don't get to tell me how to vote. Beyond that, how the hell are poeple "seeing to it that Desantis loses".

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DeSantis can't stop them if they're determined to be alienated. They've made their minds up that Trump is the guy. It's his turn...again. Anyone who threatens that will inherently draw their derision.

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Yes, but all of that disappears if Desantis wins the nomination. So, between now and then, he would be wise not to step on any landmines like this one.

He should be out there making the case for why he can win and why Trump can't. Using the leftist "Stormy Daniels" talking points is a mistake. It just is.

He could have said "Trump keeps attacking me, but I agree with Trump on most issues. I'm not going to engage him in those attacks. And, frankly, I think those type of attacks are why he can't win the election."

That's his best chance. If he gets into a mud slinging contest, he's already lost. This is self evident.

It's amazing how easy it was for the establishment to turn Desantis into an enemy of magas. It's disappointing. Because it seems like all it took was a few msm generated anonymous sources that claimed Desantis was going to run, that made trump start targeting Desantis. Then once trump started, it started an avalanche where a lot of maga voters were drawn into a dumbass "either/or" situation.


Meanwhile.. Desantis has not hinted he'll run for president. All the smoke we see is being created through anonymous sources, rinos, trump, Democrats and msm.