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re: Who actually likes “travel ball”
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:23 pm to lsudocts
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:23 pm to lsudocts
Guy I work with his granddaughter plays travel softball. He told
Me just yesterday that they were at a tourney Saturday and it started at 8am and they didn’t finish until 9:45 that night. He said he is done. Not doing it anymore.
Me just yesterday that they were at a tourney Saturday and it started at 8am and they didn’t finish until 9:45 that night. He said he is done. Not doing it anymore.
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Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:26 pm to Ponchy Tiger
Wouldn’t be a problem if you like the kids and parents you have to hang around all day.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:27 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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Guy I work with his granddaughter plays travel softball. He told
Me just yesterday that they were at a tourney Saturday and it started at 8am and they didn’t finish until 9:45 that night. He said he is done. Not doing it anymore.
softball is different from baseball. way more games and double elimination most of the time.
but if you enjoy the company you are around...who cares.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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It's the population below that which gives all the stereotypes (and spends the major $ chasing the dream). This population basically destroyed rec options and created the culture of perceived inclusion that's a black hole for so many kids/families who don't have a shot at playing HS ball.
Yep. The keeping up with the joneses mindset got them where it’s at today. “My baby is good enough to play travel ball” even though he’s not.
Orgs (perfect game, otc, 2d) can easily force their hand and go back to Rex by just simply not offering AA anymore but it’s a cash cow. Don’t blame them from a business standpoint.
But AA & AAA is where the stereotype comes from. Majors is actually competitive baseball. Even though now Majors is starting to get slightly watered down. The new elite is “National” teams.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:32 pm to Mr. Hangover
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The only times I’ve seen any of those ridiculous names it’s been on tigerdroppings
I coached a Jaxsyn a few years ago. Nice kid but whole family was low on the wonderlic test
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:40 pm to dukeg7213
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But AA & AAA is where the stereotype comes from. Majors is actually competitive baseball. Even though now Majors is starting to get slightly watered down. The new elite is “National” teams.
high aaa is still good ball especially 12 and below.
and yea big difference between state level majors team (top 15-20 teams in state) and national level majors. that has gotten insane with the national teams
i know a kid that is going to a top level d1 program and since he was 10 has been getting picked up in private jets and going to play all over the country for national teams. now playing for usa prime national team but used to play for a team that was owned by a billionaire and would pick him up and fly him where ever
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:40 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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BatonrougeCajun
you see my post....barbe is taking 5 incoming freshman. 5
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:57 pm to lsu777
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i know a kid that is going to a top level d1 program and since he was 10 has been getting picked up in private jets and going to play all over the country for national teams. now playing for usa prime national team but used to play for a team that was owned by a billionaire and would pick him up and fly him where ever
i'd laugh if no one even gave a shite whether they won or not and they did it because dad was the coke dealer or mom was the side chick
This post was edited on 5/16/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/16/23 at 12:58 pm to lsu777
I know Griffin is one. Saw him a few times this year and wasn’t impressed. From LSU’s standpoint I get it but I doubt he makes it to campus unless Cecchini fixes him.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:02 pm to FlyTheW08
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It was a self fulfilling prophesy. Because everyone thought this, everyone pulled their kids out of rec ball. Rec ball is a shell of its former self. If we could go back 15 years, that would not be the case.
Our rec playground, this year has 61 boys age 5-6 signed up to play coach pitch baseball. We had 26 adults sign up to coach... 9 as head coach and 17 as assistant. We formed 5 teams and each team has 4-5 adults out there coaching and working with the kids. These numbers have been consistent the last few years.
Our 7-8 boys program has about 23-25 kids and 3-4 adutls sign up to caoch... this year only 1 as a head coach. We formed two teams and had to beg the 2-3 that signed up as assistant coaches to be a head coach.
So between age 6 and 7, we are losing more than half of our rec kids and the vast majoirty of our volunteer parents.
100 percent of them are going to travel. The number of 7u, 8u, 10u travel ball teams here has exploded.
Our 9/10 numbers are slightly higher than our 7/8 numbers, and our 11/12 numbers are a little higher still.
We have had kids play 5/6 rec, then go to travel at 7, and then come back to rec at 9/10/11/12.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:06 pm to BatonrougeCajun
Just to put a similar perspective on this, I have 17 year old daughter that plays on a national level softball team. She just committed D1 last fall.
At 13, SHE made the decision that she loved the sport and wanted to be great. We were just playing on a local team that myself and a few dads helped coach. SHE decided to tryout for our organization's national level team and made it. SHE decided to put in the work at lessons, in the weight room, at speed and agility training. SHE decided that college ball was where she wanted to be.
Our national level team has played in California, Colorado, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Indiana, Arizona over the last few years. These are basically the only tournaments that the P5/High Mid Major coaches attend. They never go to Rec or High School games. If you want to be seen you have to be on those fields.
As SFP said, she falls into that top 1-5% of athletes that belong at that level. The local tournaments have simply replaced Rec/Legion leagues that used to exist.
I have coached at the 14/16/18u National level and can tell you that the elite athletes getting recruited to play at those levels no longer come out of anything less than a high level regional team or national level team.
At 13, SHE made the decision that she loved the sport and wanted to be great. We were just playing on a local team that myself and a few dads helped coach. SHE decided to tryout for our organization's national level team and made it. SHE decided to put in the work at lessons, in the weight room, at speed and agility training. SHE decided that college ball was where she wanted to be.
Our national level team has played in California, Colorado, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Indiana, Arizona over the last few years. These are basically the only tournaments that the P5/High Mid Major coaches attend. They never go to Rec or High School games. If you want to be seen you have to be on those fields.
As SFP said, she falls into that top 1-5% of athletes that belong at that level. The local tournaments have simply replaced Rec/Legion leagues that used to exist.
I have coached at the 14/16/18u National level and can tell you that the elite athletes getting recruited to play at those levels no longer come out of anything less than a high level regional team or national level team.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:06 pm to lsu777
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yea well the NOLA league disappeared so will be hard to get it back. most schools are leaving legion and opting for travel instead.
Travel has had something to do with this, of course, but a lot of the problems with Legion ball in NOLA were self-inflicted by Legion leadership. Many coaches just got tired of dealing with the BS.
And as others have said, Legion should tie into the same eligibility as high school. The 18 and 19 year old post-grads playing Legion ball was dragging it down.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:06 pm to dukeg7213
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I know Griffin is one. Saw him a few times this year and wasn’t impressed. From LSU’s standpoint I get it but I doubt he makes it to campus unless Cecchini fixes him.
fixes what exactly?
he has work to do but its more about developing the complete game....but nobody works harder than him at his age. he is up there every night with the barbe boys until 9/10 at night. kid works his arse off but i do know what you mean kind of.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:08 pm to lsu777
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softball is different from baseball. way more games and double elimination most of the time.
but if you enjoy the company you are around...who cares
Softball also doesn't have the pitching limitations that baseball does.
7u and 8u baseball travel is the same thing... you can easily play 4-5 games a day.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:11 pm to VivaTerlingua
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At 13, SHE made the decision that she loved the sport and wanted to be great
I love this. 13 is a great age to decide to stick to one sport and dig in and really develop.
Age 7 or 8 is not.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:13 pm to lsu777
He has a pretty big attitude problem that needs fixing. I think Barbe will humble him a bit though.
Game has caught up with him at 14, he’s undersized, and everyone on his level works the same now.
When he was younger he was just so much more athletic playing on a smaller field against weaker comp and always had that advantage. I think this year at 14 he’s struggled some because the game has caught up.
Game has caught up with him at 14, he’s undersized, and everyone on his level works the same now.
When he was younger he was just so much more athletic playing on a smaller field against weaker comp and always had that advantage. I think this year at 14 he’s struggled some because the game has caught up.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:17 pm to LSUFanHouston
You are exactly right. At that age she was doing gymnastics, volleyball, and softball...just being a kid out there with her friends. As she got a little older she fell in love with the sport. The demands of travel sports in baseball, softball, and volleyball and certainly leading to burnout at early ages for athletes. It can become a gauntlet for young athletes to handle the rigor of years caught up on that grind.
I disagree with some in this thread that 8, 9, 10 years old is where the decision is made or you get left behind. Puberty becomes the defining moment for many on what your floor and ceiling look like as a great high school or potential college level athlete. Each kid has their own journey and will/should decide for themselves what that looks like.
I disagree with some in this thread that 8, 9, 10 years old is where the decision is made or you get left behind. Puberty becomes the defining moment for many on what your floor and ceiling look like as a great high school or potential college level athlete. Each kid has their own journey and will/should decide for themselves what that looks like.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:17 pm to VivaTerlingua
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Just to put a similar perspective on this, I have 17 year old daughter that plays on a national level softball team. She just committed D1 last fall.
At 13, SHE made the decision that she loved the sport and wanted to be great. We were just playing on a local team that myself and a few dads helped coach. SHE decided to tryout for our organization's national level team and made it. SHE decided to put in the work at lessons, in the weight room, at speed and agility training. SHE decided that college ball was where she wanted to be.
Our national level team has played in California, Colorado, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Indiana, Arizona over the last few years. These are basically the only tournaments that the P5/High Mid Major coaches attend. They never go to Rec or High School games. If you want to be seen you have to be on those fields.
As SFP said, she falls into that top 1-5% of athletes that belong at that level. The local tournaments have simply replaced Rec/Legion leagues that used to exist.
I have coached at the 14/16/18u National level and can tell you that the elite athletes getting recruited to play at those levels no longer come out of anything less than a high level regional team or national level team
yep.
example in baseball....i routinely see 10u kids throwing 60+ even up to 64 with 2 other pitches and throwing them for strikes. even seen some 9u kid throwing in that 60 range. this is state level majors tournaments
we dont have a single kid in little league in 11-12 that can throw 60.
routinely see 70-72 in 12u majors ball at the state level....yet can even see 60 in league.
plus little league rules suck. no stealing at 12? pitching from 46 feet? 60 foot bases? its dumb.
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:21 pm to dukeg7213
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He has a pretty big attitude problem that needs fixing
thats not something i have seen
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. I think Barbe will humble him a bit though.
oh it will. i have seen it seems he only cares about hitting and only hitting individually and not for the team.
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Game has caught up with him at 14, he’s undersized, and everyone on his level works the same now.
When he was younger he was just so much more athletic playing on a smaller field against weaker comp and always had that advantage. I think this year at 14 he’s struggled some because the game has caught up
i agree but he works very hard in the weight room and will be fine long term. we will see if he starts as a freshman. that is assuming he is goign to barbe,never know with him and he wasnt on the list i saw. but honestly he doesnt need to try out and thats prolly why as he has been playing summer ball with them a couple years now. assuming anyways
Posted on 5/16/23 at 1:22 pm to lsu777
I think you and I are saying the same thing. There is a certain level athlete that belongs at that level if they want to continue being elite.
In the softball world this gets exasperated by the sheer lack of numbers playing the sport. The top 5% in the girl's game is a significantly smaller number than in the boy's game. In order to face that level of competition consistently and continue growth, these girls are forced to play all across the country.
College coaches simply want to see best vs best out there. They don't care if you are elite and beating up on lower level competition. I am thoroughly convinced through my experiences on this journey with her that iron sharpens iron in any sport.
In the softball world this gets exasperated by the sheer lack of numbers playing the sport. The top 5% in the girl's game is a significantly smaller number than in the boy's game. In order to face that level of competition consistently and continue growth, these girls are forced to play all across the country.
College coaches simply want to see best vs best out there. They don't care if you are elite and beating up on lower level competition. I am thoroughly convinced through my experiences on this journey with her that iron sharpens iron in any sport.
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