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re: The Curious Case of Natalia Grace

Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by MBclass83
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 8:14 pm to
Now he admits to a porn addiction. It goes on and on.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 9:20 pm to
This has turned into the Michael Barnett show.

He's so obnoxious, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if he just drove his ex-wife insane.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:22 pm to
Well, they found the birth mother in Ukraine, took her DNA, proved she was the mother. She says she was born in 2003. Also, MD has her X-rays that show her “plates hadn’t opened”, meaning scientifically she was a child when she was re-aged.

No question, she was a child. But judge ruled her age cannot be brought into evidence even though judge mistakenly re aged her. This is insanity.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:54 pm to
Yeah the court ruling that the jury couldn't be told her actual age was peak stupidity.

Pretty fascinating that Michael never once said he loved Natalia or got emotional when alleging his ex-wife beat the shite out of her. Yet he cried instantly when talking about his sons, claiming the ex-wife mentally abused him, or when the trial was over. Everything was about him.

Seems like this couple were narcissistic pieces of shite whose adopted disabled daughter became too much of an inconvenience for them. And when their marriage went south, they tried to deflect blame on one another.
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Rebel
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:10 pm to
I just started watching latest episode.

Jesus Christ.

Nobody is sane.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:12 pm to
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Now he admits to a porn addiction. It goes on and on.


He said he was only a “wee bit addicted”
Posted by CaptN
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:12 pm to
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Seems like they could have done some sort of DNA testing to get her actual age.






Cut her in half and count the rings.



Posted by itoldyaso
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 11:21 pm to
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:26 am to
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It said that she pissed and shite on her brothe

That’s just the tip.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:12 pm to
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At time of adoption, I’d say 14 to 16ish.



How'd you land at 14-16?


Just curious. I don't think thats unreasonable. Very difficult to know what's what with all the lies, exagerations, agendas, etc.



IMhO she was 6 to 8 years old at the time of her adoption by the Barnetts, based mostly on photos from 2009-2010 showing the recent loss of her deciduous maxillary central incisors and the subsequent eruption of the permanent teeth.


But I could be totally wrong. Seems like every time I think I have this story figured out, I come across a new detail that unravels what I thought I knew.



Posted by Rebel
Graceland
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:35 pm to
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How'd you land at 14-16?


Because she had gone through puberty and was sexually aggressive to the male patients at the first mental hospital she was placed in.

Still find it odd she had no trace of Ukraine accent and didn’t understand Ukrainian.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/1/23 at 6:59 pm to
This reminds me of congressman hank Johnson’s apology to the midgets, I mean little people
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 7:51 pm to
My wife and I are watching this right now. Crazy crazy story.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:08 pm to
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was sexually aggressive to the male patients at the first mental hospital she was placed in.


This is much more of a red flag for sexual abuse than advanced age, again IMhO



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Still find it odd she had no trace of Ukraine accent and didn’t understand Ukrainian.


I don’t know enough about speech and language development to offer and real educated opinion, but I also find this odd.


Should be noted though, the only account I’ve seen saying she didn’t understand Ukrainian is from the Barnetts. And I don’t trust a word that comes out of their mouths (the mom and dad, that is. Jacob seems sincere and consistent to me).


Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:13 pm to
I'm watching now. I don't think I'm in enough to make a full call on the situation. But, the dad is dramatic as frick. And I imagine he and his wife at least fed this weird behavior some with how dramatic they are
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:15 pm to
Found this site that has a ton of info on this whole saga

Natalia Grace timeline
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15394 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:17 pm to
He’s a lunatic. And I think he’s getting a gayer and gayer as the show goes on.

edit: not that there’s anything wrong with that.
This post was edited on 6/1/23 at 8:20 pm
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 8:28 pm to
Can this girl not have precocious puberty as part of her condition or comorbidly?
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:03 pm to
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Can this girl not have precocious puberty as part of her condition or comorbidly?


Do we even know for sure that she’s gone through puberty?

Natalia and Cynthia Man’s (the lady that eventually took her in) both said in an interview that Natalia has never had a period.

The whole thing could’ve been another lie by the Barnetts.

Or that poor child could’ve had bleeding from sexual abuse.
Posted by AlterDWI
Durango, Colorado
Member since Nov 2012
2203 posts
Posted on 6/1/23 at 9:05 pm to
I lmao when he was having his 152nd breakdown & his son is just staring at him eating popcorn.
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