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re: 4th in Offense, 117th in Defense…
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:09 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:09 pm to SammyTiger
We have Grambling and MS state included in that. Arkansas isn’t a world beater either. We gave up over 150 yards rushing and nearly 6 yards a carry to Grambling. There’s no silver lining for this defense.
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Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:11 pm to toughcrittercrumb
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It’s not the talent. We have more talent than at least 75% of the teams in the country. It is all on coaching. We were terrible on 3rd downs last year and now it seems everyone knows exactly how to attack us in House’s second year.
On defense we really don’t. What players not named Wingo, Perkins, Weeks, or Jefferson have proven to be talented?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:24 pm to unctiger4
Do you really think that this is just the best we can do with the talent that we have on defense?
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:26 pm to FreddieMac
It’s coaching and not talent if it is due to tackling basics
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:27 pm to tigereye1988
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Do you really think that this is just the best we can do with the talent that we have on defense?
The evidence is piling up. And I’m as pie in the sky as you can get.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:46 pm to genuineLSUtiger
I disagree. I acknowledge the defense has a ceiling because the talent is lacking in areas. But when our see our d-line line up 2 yards off the ball, secondary looking confused, refusing to bring pressure and satisfied to play off the receivers and still getting burned constantly, I put a lot of that on the coaches. Those coaches are getting paid a lot of money to get the best out of the players and they are failing.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:49 pm to tigereye1988
we can definitely do better but we have a talent issue too.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 5:51 pm to SammyTiger
I agree. And I also agree the outrage toward the coaches is warranted too
Posted on 10/2/23 at 6:02 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Hope Kelly is aware of this. Based on today's PC seems there is nothing wrong with scheme just missed tackles.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 7:57 pm to toughcrittercrumb
Does anyone remember what defense was ranked before ole miss game?
I am sure it wasn’t good, but MSU and Grambling probably kept yards per game & points allowed per game down some being half the totals.
I was just wondering how far they fell due to Ole Miss game.
I am sure it wasn’t good, but MSU and Grambling probably kept yards per game & points allowed per game down some being half the totals.
I was just wondering how far they fell due to Ole Miss game.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:03 pm to FreddieMac
quote:Sure. Giving up 711 yards of offense is completely realistic and should have been the expectation for everyone.
everyone is shocked when we do not have a good defense. People are just not realistic.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:28 pm to tigereye1988
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Do you really think that this is just the best we can do with the talent that we have on defense?
Tell me where I said that. I’m not letting House off the hook. His scheme has clearly not been working with this group. But to say we have a bunch of talent that’s being misused is pretty stupid. Both things are true.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:35 am to unctiger4
It sounded like you were making excuses for the coaches. Like we shouldn’t be surprised that we’re ranked 117 or whatever because that’s what we should expect with the lack of talent on the defense. And anyone expected better is just being unrealistic.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 6:36 am
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:44 am to tigereye1988
We have too many D2 and young players on Def
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:46 am to tigereye1988
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It sounded like you were making excuses for the coaches. Like we shouldn’t be surprised that we’re ranked 117 or whatever because that’s what we should expect with the lack of talent on the defense. And anyone expected better is just being unrealistic.
If that’s what you’re interpreting from my posts then I can’t help you. My entire point is you can’t boil our failures down to one thing.
1. Our coaches have not done their job well enough this year.
2. We have at best mediocre talent on defense and very little depth.
Both things are true. Trying to make it all about one or the other is simpleton thinking.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:22 am to unctiger4
I responded to the wrong person. I agree, with a defense this bad that you can’t point to just one thing. Coaching, scheme, and players are all at fault.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:35 am to glorymanutdtiger
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It’s coaching and not talent if it is due to tackling basics
This is by far the most over used concept on this board. Bad tackling does not equal bad coaching.
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