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Something I noticed after watching the highlights
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:05 pm
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:05 pm
I caught this on a highlight and not live and l think it's positive.
Our defense this year obviously is horrible for so many reasons. Above all else they don't seem to be animated or pissed off. They just get run over and hang their heads. They don't even seem to get mad at each other which is very concerning. Total lack of emotion period. But.......
When Mizzou scored that rush TD when our DLine was busy pointing at the Mizzou linemen for flinching out his stance, Major Burns had grabbed the RB right around the one yard line around the hips. Burns was still attempting to hold him out of the end zone. The RB then slipped his grasp and plowed into Zy Alexanders #24 and scored. Zy didn't even put any effort into stopping him. He just let him run through him. After the play Burns shoved Zy in the chest and was visibly pissed off as he shouted something in Zys face. IMHO that split second when Burns had the RB around his hips Zy could have cracked him or thudded into him and possibly kept him from scoring. But he didn't. That is the issue with this defense. The fact that someone (Burns) finally got pissed off and got in his teammates face about it kinda is a good sign. You never give up on a play. You never know what could happen. Would Zy have pushed the RB backwards at the goalline? Maybe...maybe not. The fact of the matter is he chose to put in no effort and got ran through. Burns seemed to let him have it. This small glimmer of emotion and frustration is positive. Some of these Defensive players especially the DBs need to wake up and get their s*** together! This defense is finally showing some emotion and getting after each other for lack of effort. That's exactly what we need moving forward.
Our defense this year obviously is horrible for so many reasons. Above all else they don't seem to be animated or pissed off. They just get run over and hang their heads. They don't even seem to get mad at each other which is very concerning. Total lack of emotion period. But.......
When Mizzou scored that rush TD when our DLine was busy pointing at the Mizzou linemen for flinching out his stance, Major Burns had grabbed the RB right around the one yard line around the hips. Burns was still attempting to hold him out of the end zone. The RB then slipped his grasp and plowed into Zy Alexanders #24 and scored. Zy didn't even put any effort into stopping him. He just let him run through him. After the play Burns shoved Zy in the chest and was visibly pissed off as he shouted something in Zys face. IMHO that split second when Burns had the RB around his hips Zy could have cracked him or thudded into him and possibly kept him from scoring. But he didn't. That is the issue with this defense. The fact that someone (Burns) finally got pissed off and got in his teammates face about it kinda is a good sign. You never give up on a play. You never know what could happen. Would Zy have pushed the RB backwards at the goalline? Maybe...maybe not. The fact of the matter is he chose to put in no effort and got ran through. Burns seemed to let him have it. This small glimmer of emotion and frustration is positive. Some of these Defensive players especially the DBs need to wake up and get their s*** together! This defense is finally showing some emotion and getting after each other for lack of effort. That's exactly what we need moving forward.
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:17 pm to RaginRed
DBs have been clueless where the ball is at any time. Never seen anything like it. We just react afterward.
Defense also plays on its heels, very non aggressive and slow to react. Players don't seem to feel free to make plays.
Defense also plays on its heels, very non aggressive and slow to react. Players don't seem to feel free to make plays.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:20 pm to RaginRed
There are a select few on this defense who are legitimately afraid of contact.
Sage Ryan standing around and watching other players finish tackles pisses me off beyond measure.
Sage Ryan standing around and watching other players finish tackles pisses me off beyond measure.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:When you are always out of position and confused about where to go, it’s really hard to be fast and aggressive. This is on both the players and coaches to be better.
Defense also plays on its heels, very non aggressive and slow to react. Players don't seem to feel free to make plays
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:05 pm to RaginRed
I saw this and noticed it as well. I thought the same thing.
And on that note, there were other signs like this throughout the second half where players on the defense showed some life.
One was after Masson Smith got his first sack of the year.. that really seemed to bring some fire out of the guys.
Hopefully you’re right and this is a sign of things to come. Some ACCOUNTABILITY AMONG BROTHERS!!
Brotherly accountability is a strong force when used appropriately.
Also, that fire is going to be a NECESSITY moving forward.
Auburn is going to bring a lot of physicality in the run game and LSU is going to have to be ready mentally for that.
And after Auburn, Alabama Florida and A&M will bring just as much physicality.
This is definitely the time to turn up the heat. I think they can do it.
If Defense steps up and this is a hell of a ball team we have.
And on that note, there were other signs like this throughout the second half where players on the defense showed some life.
One was after Masson Smith got his first sack of the year.. that really seemed to bring some fire out of the guys.
Hopefully you’re right and this is a sign of things to come. Some ACCOUNTABILITY AMONG BROTHERS!!
Brotherly accountability is a strong force when used appropriately.
Also, that fire is going to be a NECESSITY moving forward.
Auburn is going to bring a lot of physicality in the run game and LSU is going to have to be ready mentally for that.
And after Auburn, Alabama Florida and A&M will bring just as much physicality.
This is definitely the time to turn up the heat. I think they can do it.
If Defense steps up and this is a hell of a ball team we have.
This post was edited on 10/9/23 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:07 pm to Sponge
I saw what you are talking about and it sure hit a nerve with me too. I’m just not used to seeing that from a good LSU defense, that ain’t coaching either! Frustrating, but it’s not because of a lack of talent - everyone from coaches to players have to shoulder a little responsibility on defense here and help this offense. This offense is really good and with a little defensive help we can surely have the rest of a very good year.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:11 pm to RaginRed
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After the play Burns shoved Zy in the chest and was visibly pissed off as he shouted something in Zys face
Burns is BY FAR the biggest vocal leader on the defense. The problem is that he’s sucked just as bad as the rest of them. Can’t chew your teammates’ arse when you’re getting torched for touchdowns your damn self. Maybe his pick 6 can turn that around a bit. Give him a little authority.
That’s why I completely disagree with the people saying he should have gone down. It may have been the smart “football play” in the micro, but in the macro, this defense needed something to make them
feel good about themselves moving forward. The % chance of us winning might have gone from 98 to 97 when he housed it. But whatever the difference was, it was exponentially more important for the psyche of the defense for him to score. If we lose a 10-point lead with under 3 minutes to go, that’s on the coaches. You make a pick on the 12 after giving up 39 and there’s nothing but grass between you and the end zone, you take it to the house, young man, and let them deal with the rest.
Hopefully he—and the rest of the D—can take that win and build upon it.
Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:21 pm to RaginRed
Lack of effort. Scared to hit somebody. LSU's very own Brandon Taylor spoke about this after the Ole Miss game. Preston Guy from Tigerbait also saw this as our glaring weakness in his film review after Ole Miss. We need guys who want to hit, who want to smack the shite out of people. I remember those old DBs like Eric Reid, Tyrann Mathieu, Craig Loston, Jamal Adams, etc, that weren't afraid to get all up in your shite.
Another thing that kills me is that our DBs NEVER look back for the ball when their defending somebody. We don't have guys out there trying to make a play when they are on tight coverage. All we need is one guy. One guy can make an entire unit look better just by doing his job.
Another thing that kills me is that our DBs NEVER look back for the ball when their defending somebody. We don't have guys out there trying to make a play when they are on tight coverage. All we need is one guy. One guy can make an entire unit look better just by doing his job.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 4:03 am to Datbayoubengal
Sage Ryan’s strip attempt vs the Mizzou WR in the 4th qtr was pitiful.
Get him on the ground dude.
Get him on the ground dude.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 4:29 am to SoloTiger
quote:poor guy is pitiful man, it’s like he is always shying away from contact, You rarely see Sage tackle someone head on, he’s always running the player down. Zy is the same way, they look afraid of contact and it rubs off on the rest of the guys. Burns may struggle in coverage a lot, but he sure tries his arse off.
Sage Ryan’s strip attempt vs the Mizzou WR in the 4th qtr was pitiful. Get him on the ground dude
Posted on 10/10/23 at 5:35 am to RaginRed
Db’s are lost out there. Steeples gotta go. House gotta go
Posted on 10/10/23 at 6:10 am to RaginRed
You are onto something.
Nick Diaz talking about Brian Kelly and the LSU defensive coaching staff (24:43)
Nick Diaz talking about Brian Kelly and the LSU defensive coaching staff (24:43)
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:04 am to RaginRed
It's hard to react quick and aggressively if you aren't sure of what is going on, especially with something as intense as football.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:19 am to Loup
Half the Def players are DII at best. The other half don't play hard.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:23 am to RaginRed
I remember seeing Burns tear into him. First time I’ve seen it all season. Seemed like a small positive in the defense. We went on to get a stop and the Burns pick 6. Throughout the whole second half the whole bench, especially the defense, erupted anytime they had a positive play stopping Mizzou. Great to see them reacting that way. Let’s hope they ride that momentum into the Auburn game.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 7:31 am to Sponge
quote:
There are a select few on this defense who are legitimately afraid of contact.
Sage Ryan standing around and watching other players finish tackles pisses me off beyond measure.
Everybody talks about some of the guys being young and others being transfers. But what's Sage and Burns excuse?
They've been in the program, we're recruited highly out of HS and they still suck. Both guys are also standouts when it comes to showing subpar effort.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:35 am to OJsLifeCoach
I saw that exact play Saturday and video taped it and sent to my friends. Watch it about 6 times.
ZY was just standing there not helping at all. Major Burns was pissed.
If we saw it, you know dam well the coaches saw it.
ZY was just standing there not helping at all. Major Burns was pissed.
If we saw it, you know dam well the coaches saw it.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 8:36 am
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:43 am to Hot Carl
truth
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:49 am to Hot Carl
quote:no, it probably went from 98 to 99.9999999999%
The % chance of us winning might have gone from 98 to 97 when he housed it.
The reason you go down is that it's mathematically impossible for Mizzou to win, as long as we don't fumble a snap in victory formation. Which is very, very, very, very rare.
But giving you opponent the ball? Anything can happen, as we saw with Ga Tech and Miami.
Go down, take a knee, and it's virtually 100% impossible to lose. Should do it every time.
Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:50 am to Sponge
Safe to be is the biggest disappointment out of nany defebsive disappointments. He looked so indecisive on the two point conversion, his silly attempt at a strip, and it goes in and on.
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