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re: Is there no way to take gall stones out of the gallbladder?
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:29 pm to Meauxjeaux
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:29 pm to Meauxjeaux
Yes after you take out your gallbladder
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Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:34 pm to Meauxjeaux
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Is there no way to take gall stones out of the gallbladder?
They've been doing it in China for at least 10 years.
The western approach is not to do that because you'll likely get more anyways and if you don't remove it there's a chance for cancer.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:35 pm to pngtiger
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Gallbladder stones are like wet sand, they fall apart when grabbing them, meaning we can’t open up the GB and just pull them out. The GB also doesn’t respond well to being opened and closed with sutures, leading to bile leakage. Lastly, the stones don’t absorb the same ultrasonic waves that would break them up. And even if they do, what’s left is wet sand that will reform. That wet sand will go down through the ducts and block them, just like a full stone.
TD is always money. Thank you, this is great!!
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:35 pm to Jimmy Chestnut
It's usually routine, but in the 80s, my Dad waited until it was almost too late.
They cut him from his spine to his naval. There was a pill bottle full of stones in the gall bladder, and a bunch of "sand".
One of the stones had blocked his bile duct, and he was turning yellow, but the tough/crazy SOB didn't do anything until the pain left him no option
They cut him from his spine to his naval. There was a pill bottle full of stones in the gall bladder, and a bunch of "sand".
One of the stones had blocked his bile duct, and he was turning yellow, but the tough/crazy SOB didn't do anything until the pain left him no option
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:37 pm to papasmurf1269
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Laparoscopic cholecystectomy is not a bad surgery to deal with. It’s just the aftermath of the diarrhea that’s difficult to deal with
I never experienced diarrhea due to having my gallbladder removed. Having said that, someone I worked with had chronic diarrhea after having his gallbladder removed. I wish I'd had mine removed sooner, the surgery was a relief compared to the pain I was in at the time.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:37 pm to papasmurf1269
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Laparoscopic cholecystectomy is not a bad surgery to deal with. It’s just the aftermath of the diarrhea that’s difficult to deal with
I honestly haven't had a huge issue with it. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to it, but I have bad days every once in a while. Most of the time, I'm completely fine though. My mom had the years-long diarrhea after though- seems to be different for everyone
Posted on 10/29/23 at 2:45 pm to Meauxjeaux
IIRC, they can use ultrasonic tech to break up the stones but, if you are having enough stones, they just take the whole damn thing out.
At least one person I know had so many stones that their gallbladder went necrotic and it had to be removed as well as treating surrounding organs like the pancreas because of it.
At least one person I know had so many stones that their gallbladder went necrotic and it had to be removed as well as treating surrounding organs like the pancreas because of it.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:21 pm to Meauxjeaux
Emergency lap chole 11/2015 was the start of my physical collapse. The coincident pancreatitis was overlooked and by the time another hospitalization occurred my fate was sealed.
Get a lap chole scheduled rather than hope and pray emergency doesn’t happen. You don’t want to end up with a 36 hour no sleep surgeon. Trust me!
Get a lap chole scheduled rather than hope and pray emergency doesn’t happen. You don’t want to end up with a 36 hour no sleep surgeon. Trust me!
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:24 pm to rmc
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You have one get lodged somewhere and you will be begging them to take it out so you don’t have to feel that pain again.
My surgery in 2021 got pushed up almost three weeks because I had an attack where one got lodged but thankfully came out after a couple of hours.
It was miserable. I’ve also had a big reduction in GERD post gallbladder removal and have almost no issue eating things I couldn’t before the surgery.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 3:30 pm to Meauxjeaux
Wait what? So they have gall stones? Are they not in pain yet? If I were them I would get it removed ASAP. By far the worse pain I ever experienced.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 5:49 pm to LanierSpots
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Removing my gall bladder is the worst thing that has ever happened to me physically. My digestive system has been a mess, 24/7 ever since it has been removed.
It is a issue for me every single day.
My wife had her's removed, then came down with pancreatitis. We made three trips to the ER before she got straightened out. Removing the gallbladder is typically an "easy" surgery, if cutting on you is ever easy, but not always.
Hope your issues improve, she still has some digestive issues too.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:06 pm to SpotCheckBilly
I'm 20 years post cholecysectomy and the digestive issues are still there. I can deal with them by drinking a lot of water daily but it's definitely annoying. I had several attacks and mine was getting necrotic so I had no choice when I finally got it removed. Went to the ER in Starkvegas at 3AM one morning when I was at Moo State for a CE conference. That was an experience. I was doubled over in the waiting room sweating and a nurse came out and asked "What's your pain 1-10". I said about 8. She said" Oh it ain't either".
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:11 pm to Meauxjeaux
Look up the liver and gallbladder cleanse by Andreas Moritz
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:14 pm to Meauxjeaux
ERCP, if possible.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:14 pm to Bama Bird
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Gallbladder removal is a breeze. I had mine out about a month ago and only took two days off work.
It’s nuts how different the offshore world works. Coworker got theirs removed 12 weeks ago and they just got cleared.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 10:36 pm to Bama Bird
Maybe it was a breeze for you! The surgeon nicked something and I nearly bled to death before they figured it out. Had to be transferred to another hospital and emergency surgery to correct that.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 11:35 pm to Meauxjeaux
If you never had a gall bladder attack you don’t understand why you would just take the whole thing out. Legit thought I was having a heart attack and rushed myself to the ER. Was the worst pain I’ve ever experienced.
Gall bladder was removed on a Friday and I was at work on Monday.
Gall bladder was removed on a Friday and I was at work on Monday.
Posted on 10/29/23 at 11:57 pm to lionward2014
This is helpful. Have you had to modify anything like helping with vitamins and such?
Do you have to do alot of supplements now?
Do you have to do alot of supplements now?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:44 am to Meauxjeaux
You can live without the gallbladder just with some minor digestive issues that mostly abate over time.
I think the reasoning would be that your body would simply create more gallstones and that once again puts your body in pain and at risk of rupture if one creates a blockage.
Removing stones and leaving the gallbladder in would just mean a continued risk of blockage/rupture and another surgery/infection risk later.
I’m personally glad I don’t have to worry about this happening to me again. The pain was significant along with losing desire to eat or drink anything. Left me very dehydrated and exhausted.
Get that sucker removed if it’s causing an issue!
I think the reasoning would be that your body would simply create more gallstones and that once again puts your body in pain and at risk of rupture if one creates a blockage.
Removing stones and leaving the gallbladder in would just mean a continued risk of blockage/rupture and another surgery/infection risk later.
I’m personally glad I don’t have to worry about this happening to me again. The pain was significant along with losing desire to eat or drink anything. Left me very dehydrated and exhausted.
Get that sucker removed if it’s causing an issue!
Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:45 am to Water
A relative had gall bladder removal and ended up hospitalized a few times with nightmare issues. Another surgeon finally went in and straightened things out. He said a good bit of his practice is fixing screwed up gall bladder surgeries done by other docs. Scary.
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