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re: Dudes dropping out of dating game.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:12 am to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:12 am to AwgustaDawg
Sexless Men without economic or marriage prospects turn to radicalism to fill the void. They are always the first line shock troops of EVERY revolution. If you look at economic statistics like average age of first marriage, average age of first child, and other indicators which fluctuate over time to show how comfortable most people are, the stats have gotten insanely bad over the last 4 years. Average age of first marriage and first child go up as living standards for middle and working class households decline, often peaking before a massive war, plague, or revolution.
The stats right now in the West are real bad. I’m talking pre French Revolution bad. I fully believe that easy access to internet porn is the only thing currently stalling a violent revolution, and it will only delay it, not prevent it. As soon as enough people realize that the risk and opportunities of burning it all down outweigh the certainties of the status quo, all allegiance and obedience to the institutions that govern and protect us will cease. They will burn down the world they have no place in in the hopes of a home in the new one they’ll build upon the ashes.
To save the Republic, we must improve the economic prospects of the working and middle classes.
To save the Republic, we must repair our broken dating culture to get more young men and women married and having children.
If you’re a gen x or boomer and wondering “is it really that bad? Sounds like a lot of losers complaining.” It’s bad, it’s really really bad. It’s worse than you can possibly imagine. This is a civilizational level existential threat as serious as a f$&king meteor.
The stats right now in the West are real bad. I’m talking pre French Revolution bad. I fully believe that easy access to internet porn is the only thing currently stalling a violent revolution, and it will only delay it, not prevent it. As soon as enough people realize that the risk and opportunities of burning it all down outweigh the certainties of the status quo, all allegiance and obedience to the institutions that govern and protect us will cease. They will burn down the world they have no place in in the hopes of a home in the new one they’ll build upon the ashes.
To save the Republic, we must improve the economic prospects of the working and middle classes.
To save the Republic, we must repair our broken dating culture to get more young men and women married and having children.
If you’re a gen x or boomer and wondering “is it really that bad? Sounds like a lot of losers complaining.” It’s bad, it’s really really bad. It’s worse than you can possibly imagine. This is a civilizational level existential threat as serious as a f$&king meteor.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 8:26 am
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:14 am to Limitlesstigers
yea im a very early millenial or zennial and married in 2019 to an amazing wife. Even then you were seeing the younger girls thinking they were too good for many of the under 6' guys who were just starting their career.
i do understand though college educated people mainly wanting college educated mates. so that is a problem as the education gap grows.
but many of these issues are mainly because of social media and the way guys simp after girls.
if you are a young guy, focus on your career and climbing the ladder and stacking cash. and then focus on becoming fit as frick. get big and shredded and healthy AF. do those things and naturally you will find a girl with similar values and vision and not some 4 with 2 kids thinking she is too good for you.
also women have a hard time accepting reality. sorry but older you get, the less value you have. have kids...less value.....high body count...less value.
i do understand though college educated people mainly wanting college educated mates. so that is a problem as the education gap grows.
but many of these issues are mainly because of social media and the way guys simp after girls.
if you are a young guy, focus on your career and climbing the ladder and stacking cash. and then focus on becoming fit as frick. get big and shredded and healthy AF. do those things and naturally you will find a girl with similar values and vision and not some 4 with 2 kids thinking she is too good for you.
also women have a hard time accepting reality. sorry but older you get, the less value you have. have kids...less value.....high body count...less value.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:19 am to Scruffy
quote:I'm with you Scruffy, from the perspective of a Dad with two older teen boys. My boys are lucky in that they are tall, fit, smart all that stuff, but it's a completely different world from when I was a teen in the late 70's / early 80's.
This is going to be a massive problem.
Sexless and directionless young men are a dangerous cohort.
Add in the group of females who will be single and childless, and we are headed for disaster.
Playing this off as just something that affects “losers” is naive.
Another stat that is so telling is in western cultures now more women at 30 YO are childless than ever before. It's what modern feminism has done to them...career first.
My boys have to worry about #metoo-ism, dating apps, unrealistic expectations all in a world made more difficult to get a good education (I worked my way through LSU w no student debt), housing, etc. It's a different world out there.
To comment on another post that this "seems like a loser problem being blown up, that they are successfully married / dating": I have an example of what modern feminism does to men. My nephews are successful engineers in their 20's / 30's, but married liberal women. These guys march to their wives commands. COVID demonstrated this completely. They can't fart without first consulting their wives. All these guys do is take their kids to soccer and live in their suburban bubbles, no camping, fishing, hunting, boats, etc. I'm anticipating divorce at 45-50 once the kids are gone and they realize what they've missed out on.
Free society is in trouble.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:20 am to Scruffy
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Playing this off as just something that affects “losers” is naive.
It only affects the loser females, who will end up alone in their 30s and begging for men who want to marry them now that they're "ready to settle down."
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:25 am to 3D
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When I was young and had abs w veins, women wanted the older guys w money... now I'm an older guy w money and women only want the guys w veins in their abs. Women are now into workouts & gym outfits, used to be the gym was all dudes and only 1-2 women in there
So be an older guy with money and abs. It's not a bad life.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:26 am to prplhze2000
I think most guys here can easily meet nice women, because our demo skews older, and most older women have been mugged by reality and have more realistic expectations about men. The 40 and older crowd. Still very normal.
Way too many young single guys are fricked and way too many young girls are fricking themselves out of love and family. Young girls are thirsty AF, completely for sale, and it is disgusting to anybody who is old enough to know where that leads.
Way too many young single guys are fricked and way too many young girls are fricking themselves out of love and family. Young girls are thirsty AF, completely for sale, and it is disgusting to anybody who is old enough to know where that leads.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:26 am to chrome_daddy
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All these guys do is take their kids to soccer and live in their suburban bubbles, no camping, fishing, hunting, boats, etc.
not everyone likes this shite. I grew up doing all of this...but i have no desire for a boat unless its a ski boat to do with the family, i do like to fish, especially off shore, but have no desire to do it more than 4-5 times a year max. I grew up hunting pretty much every day...that shite is boring AF
i actually like my suburban bubble. I enjoy bringing my kids to games and sports as they were important to me growing up and I loved my dad was always there.
point is just because guys choose not to hunt, fish, camp etc doesnt mean they are headed for divorce. I could easily do those things, and in fact my wife often ask me why i dont go hunting, just have no desire too.
i wouldnt want to go camping around here either. shits boring AF. on a river in the mountains in colorodo...sure. in LA...frick that, hot, humid, mosquitoes etc...miserable AF. Same with sitting in a deer stand. Spent way to many mornings growing up doing that, i cherish the time with my dad, but no desire to do that shite myself anymore.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:27 am to lsu777
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Even then you were seeing the younger girls thinking they were too good for many of the under 6' guys who were just starting their career.
Definitely, I was just pointing out the difference between 2012 and now. It's slowly gotten worse since the 90's but the invention of Tinder and Instagram basically poured gasoline onto the problem.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:27 am to Scruffy
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Women appear to consider hookups to be “relationships”, IMO.
Yep. That winner they think they have a "relationship" with is tapping 8 other hos, and checked the "single" box on the survey.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:30 am to SoDakHawk
quote:there’s a reason they’re on a dating app for sex hookups rather than with Mr. Wonderful
Boys, dodged some bullets there. Guys shouldn't be interested in women like this anyway. Same bitches that will take half your stuff a few years later.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:33 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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60+% of men are single, compared to ~30% of women.
this stat is so interesting. suggests that maybe a great # of women are a delusional about their relationship status.
"I don't have a girlfriend. But there is a woman who would be very upset to hear me say that."
Mitch Hedberg.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:34 am to pankReb
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This is a lazy take. Plenty of Americans were living well within their needs and then things happen like ground beef going from $1 to $4 absolutely killed their disposable income.
Rent is sky high compared to 10 years ago and inflation has obliterated everything from groceries to used cars.
Netflix? Cell phone plans? New cell phone every year? Car note?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:34 am to prplhze2000
This is a case of be careful what you wish for. A guy who is incredibly good looking wants the same in a woman and is likely to leave for a younger/hotter version.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:35 am to Bestbank Tiger
Some interesting statistics from online dating:
- There are twice as many men online as there are women, even though women outnumber men in the general population. The imbalance in the general population is even more pronounced in older segments.
- Women "swipe right" on around 25% of profiles, men on about 45%.
- The "likes" are not uniformly distributed obviously. Both men and women swipe right more frequently on attractive people. The concentration is more pronounced in women.
The end result - the average male averages less than one match a day and gets frustrated and desperate. The average female gets frustrated, but also validated.
Validated so much so that "average women" believe they are entitled to the 6'2" Adonis making $300,000/yr.
Female hypergamy has always existed, but the dynamics of online dating has exacerbated it.
- There are twice as many men online as there are women, even though women outnumber men in the general population. The imbalance in the general population is even more pronounced in older segments.
- Women "swipe right" on around 25% of profiles, men on about 45%.
- The "likes" are not uniformly distributed obviously. Both men and women swipe right more frequently on attractive people. The concentration is more pronounced in women.
The end result - the average male averages less than one match a day and gets frustrated and desperate. The average female gets frustrated, but also validated.
Validated so much so that "average women" believe they are entitled to the 6'2" Adonis making $300,000/yr.
Female hypergamy has always existed, but the dynamics of online dating has exacerbated it.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:38 am to Freauxzen
Average price of new vehicles is double what it was 10 years ago, and used cars are like 4x what they were. Average rent is double. Food is triple what it was 3 years ago, and often 5 times more than 10 years ago. Taxes, insurance, and electricity bills are more than double.
Wages are NOT double.
Wages are NOT double.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:39 am to TigerCoon
It feels to me like money in general is way bigger on social media than it was just a handful of years ago.
When I was in college I would see pretty, well off sorority girls post albums of (many unflattering) pictures of partying in their modest college apartment. Or just a basic pic with friends at a bar or frat party.
Now, if that same demo posts anything, it’s edited, in some sort of beautiful and exclusive location, wearing very expensive clothes and jewelry.
I can’t open Instagram without seeing jets, porches, Italian designer brands, etc.… and I went to public school and lsu.
I think women were more realistic about money just ten years ago. Now, many of them really seem to think they belong in that world but are 5’6 165 lbs and middle class. Not long ago, those girls knew their ceiling was a decent house in mandeville and a Tahoe. social media had exposed and normalized the upper class lifestyle to middle class people on a daily basis. Used to be you had to actually be with those people IRL to see much of that stuff.
When I was in college I would see pretty, well off sorority girls post albums of (many unflattering) pictures of partying in their modest college apartment. Or just a basic pic with friends at a bar or frat party.
Now, if that same demo posts anything, it’s edited, in some sort of beautiful and exclusive location, wearing very expensive clothes and jewelry.
I can’t open Instagram without seeing jets, porches, Italian designer brands, etc.… and I went to public school and lsu.
I think women were more realistic about money just ten years ago. Now, many of them really seem to think they belong in that world but are 5’6 165 lbs and middle class. Not long ago, those girls knew their ceiling was a decent house in mandeville and a Tahoe. social media had exposed and normalized the upper class lifestyle to middle class people on a daily basis. Used to be you had to actually be with those people IRL to see much of that stuff.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 8:41 am
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:43 am to Scruffy
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60+% of young men are single, compared to ~30% of women.
This statistic always baffles me.
Unless there are twice as many men in the population as women, either.....
- The women are in a relationship with each other
or
- The women think they are in an exclusive relationship but the man is dating multiple women
or
Someone is lying.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:44 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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College educated women won’t date men without a college education. That’s becoming a bigger and bigger factor as the gap grows between women and men in academics.
100% correct and goes far beyond your specific point.
Women only date/marry UP, and when society is completely dedicated to supporting women and destroying men, "up" becomes smaller and smaller.
None of this is accidental or incidental. It's all by design.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:45 am to kingbob
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Sexless Men without economic or marriage prospects turn to radicalism to fill the void.
I always figured this is why the men in the Middle East are so angry all the time. All the women wearing blankets and you’re thirsty all the time bc you live in a desert.
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:47 am to prplhze2000
Something the younger generation doesn’t understand now is that if you’re actually social in public, you can meet someone. You don’t need an app. My gf’s best friend is 30 and she will only meet guys on dating apps. She’s a serial dater and has ALL the qualities of the women in this article and she wonders why she’s single at 30. I suggested meeting someone in person at a social event and her exact words were “that’s weird and creepy.” I’m so glad I’m not single anymore. What a fricked world.
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