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re: Man charged with recording sexual acts of Madison Brooks
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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creates a hole that Carver may not be able to fill. I don't think any of the other defendants admitted to sexual contact, but if they have feel free to correct me.
if we did correct you, you'd still tangent to bullshite agenda again. you're tiring.
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Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:42 am to teke184
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drunk past a certain point means consent isn’t there even if given.
She was three sheets to the wind and they knew it / admitted it, which is why it is considered rape.
The problem isn't the intoxication, it's the sexual contact, at this point.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Pretty sure Washington initially denied sexual contact of any kind, then later said it was consensual.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think any of the other defendants admitted to sexual contact, but if they have feel free to correct me.
I think their lawyers in a press conference admitted to consensual sex. There's definitely a clip of that somewhere. It was early on.. That's what fricks them on the no DNA
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:43 am to lsupride87
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An intoxicated male and intoxicated female have sex. Neither forceful, but both have no recollection of the event and we’re completely hammered to the point of not having control
Who raped who?
It doesn't sound like either party you speak of feels violated- so perhaps your example is just of drunken consensual sex?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:45 am to JDPndahizzy
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I think their lawyers in a press conference admitted to consensual sex. There's definitely a clip of that somewhere. It was early on.. That's what fricks them on the no DNA
On Friday, attorneys for Casen Carver, 18, Kaivon Deondre Washington, 18, Everett Lee, 28, and the unnamed fourth suspect, 17, held a press conference saying Brooks “wouldn’t have complained” about the alleged rape “if she was alive”.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:46 am to Chad504boy
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wouldn’t have complained” about the alleged rape “if she was alive”.
Whoever their lawyer is should probably be replaced as ineffective counsel for letting that one by. JFC.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
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An intoxicated male and intoxicated female have sex. Neither forceful, but both have no recollection of the event and we’re completely hammered to the point of not having control
Who raped who?
you're an idiot. where did you get your law degree exactly?
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Post-Miranda statements:
Admitted she was unstable on her feet; unable to keep balance; unable to speak without slurring; she was “drunk, drunk”. Admitted he asked the victim for her address but she “fell over and could not answer him; asked 5 times if she wanted to have sex with him and gave verbal consent; victim and 17-year-old had sex in the rear seat; they all remained in the car
Co-defendant “we got to stop this, let’s go”. Washington stopped having sex with her then drove to bring her home. Stated while the sex acts were being performed on the victim, “he hated it and felt uncomfortable”; He thought the victim was “drunker and speech was slurred”;
When asked if victim was too drunk to consent, he replied “I guess”
Confession. Try to lie and say they don't have any evidence again
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A. Third degree rape is a rape committed when the anal, oral, or vaginal sexual intercourse is deemed to be without the lawful consent of a victim because it is committed under any one or more of the following circumstances:
(1) When the victim is incapable of resisting or of understanding the nature of the act by reason of a stupor or abnormal condition of mind produced by an intoxicating agent or any cause and the offender knew or should have known of the victim's incapacity.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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he problem isn't the intoxication, it's the sexual contact, at this point.
Well not for them but for employees and owner of reggies.
She was underage. they all can and will be held liable.
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Jan. 14, 2023: Madison Brooks went to Reggie’s Bar around 10 p.m. Though she was underage, she received a wristband stating she was over 21, and that night she received 24 alcoholic beverages and fell four times, the suit alleges. Her blood-alcohol content levels later indicated that she had impaired functions, and John Brooks' legal team believes that she was visibly intoxicated and shouldn't have been served.
duty of care i belive, though im no lawyer.
This post was edited on 1/12/24 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:47 am to JDPndahizzy
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I think their lawyers in a press conference admitted to consensual sex. There's definitely a clip of that somewhere. It was early on
I doubt this is admissible at trial
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:50 am to Smelder
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To me it seems it wasn’t “rape” or forceful rape.
quote:thats rape.
It was a girl highly intoxicated and being taken advantage of while being filmed.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:51 am to Chad504boy
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Brooks “wouldn’t have complained” about the alleged rape “if she was alive”.
wtf?
This is the advice a tigerdroppings lawyer would give.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:52 am to dgnx6
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She was underage. they all can and will be held liable.
Are we talking about the civil suit? Because yes Reggie's will be found liable.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:52 am to dgnx6
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This is the advice a tigerdroppings lawyer would give
TD posters who stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night could give better advice than that.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:54 am to tigernurse
quote:I don’t think that’s how the law works
It doesn't sound like either party you speak of feels violated- so perhaps your example is just of drunken consensual sex?
If the video shows Brooks “enjoying it”, are you now saying it wasn’t rape since she didn’t appear violated?
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:54 am to Smelder
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To me it seems it wasn’t “rape”
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It was a girl highly intoxicated and being taken advantage of
Guess what?
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they charged the guy that filmed it with a crime .
Because it is.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:56 am to Proximo
quote:I have said at least 5 times in this thread the evidence of the defendants testimony is damning.
Try to lie and say they don't have any evidence again
You need to look in the mirror when discussing lying
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:58 am to lsupride87
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quote:
It doesn't sound like either party you speak of feels violated- so perhaps your example is just of drunken consensual sex?
I don’t think that’s how the law works
If the video shows Brooks “enjoying it”, are you now saying it wasn’t rape since she didn’t appear violated?
You two are talking about different things.
Posted on 1/12/24 at 10:59 am to lsupride87
quote:then how did he get his penis into an orifice?
to the point of not having control
Posted on 1/12/24 at 11:01 am to SaintEB
My point is the threshold for “can they consent” when it comes to alcohol usually hinges on how the female feels after the encounter or the next day
Obviously, there was no next day in this case. If, HUGE IF, the video shows brooks wanting the sex, to a jury if humans I believe a rape charge will be difficult
Because most humans won’t get into the very detail of the law of what is consent when it comes to alcohol, considering most all adults have had sex while they are drunk and still considered it consensual
Obviously, there was no next day in this case. If, HUGE IF, the video shows brooks wanting the sex, to a jury if humans I believe a rape charge will be difficult
Because most humans won’t get into the very detail of the law of what is consent when it comes to alcohol, considering most all adults have had sex while they are drunk and still considered it consensual
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