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re: Do you think taking vitamins & minerals supplements does anything?

Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:20 am to
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:20 am to
Most of us a deficient in Zinc, Magnesium and Vitamin D.

So I supplement all 3.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57434 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:38 am to
The real answer: for most people vitamins are a waste

If your diet is truly and atrociously deficient in something, then there is SOME value. But if that's the case…change your diet.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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57434 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 11:39 am to
Most of us are REALLY deficient in iodine.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:36 pm to
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Fish Oil



This is pointless to take
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2928 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Most of us are REALLY deficient in iodine.



True, and when one looks at things like this:
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"Lack of iodine is the world's leading cause of preventable mental retardation and can cause population-wide drops in IQ in areas where deficiency is common," said Dr. Glen Maberly of Emory University's Rollins School of Public Health.

1998 CDC press release re dropping American iodine levels

... would it be wrong of me to suggest we might be seeing the effects of this playing out now? Maybe? Or is that wrong of me?

I take a seaweed/seagrass supplement for this, which is supposed to naturally have a number of other micronutrients as well:
Amazon - Source Micronutrients

Yes, the one I posted is for horses. The company has long made it for horses, some people started giving it to their dogs & taking it themselves. They started putting it in pills to sell for a lot more, but it's supposed to be pure sea grass either way without filler. So I bought the 5 lb tub and take a small scoop a few days on / a few off. The company provides a weight based recommendation for people with the product to not OD on iodine.
quote:

Feed 1 tsp per 250 lb. body weight. Do not exceed recommended feeding levels. Additional Information Guaranteed Analysis : Crude Protein, min: 5.9% Crude Fat, min: 2% Crude Fiber, max: 6% Iodine, min: 660 ppm Made in the U.S.A.


Taking less than a teaspoon a day, a 5 lb tub lasts forever.

Otherwise, I don't take too many other supplements:
- C
- D3
- K1/K2 complex (important to take w/D)
- Mg Citrate
- recently started taking boron based on lsu777 & others on the Fitness board.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43222 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:42 pm to
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GP’s don’t know what the frick they’re talking about. You need someone that is educated on the particular substance you’re taking
Yeah.... like an OP poster.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:44 pm to
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This is pointless to take


True, it's mostly snake oil built out of a poorly conducted study of Inuits. Pretty much every such study is junk, very few are ever independently verfied and followed up to test the robustness of conclusions. That's why the will always say a study "suggests", they never actually "prove".
Posted by kimmieb
Member since Aug 2007
80 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:53 pm to
If my lab results say I am deficient in something important then, I take that vitamin or mineral. No point in paying for supplements you don't necessarily need unless, there is some benefit in doing so that is documented that you see benefit from. With that said I take Zinc, Boron, Vitamin B injections, aspirin, magnesium, and a probiotic each day from highly quality vendors like Seeking Health, Metagenics, etc. I have the MTHFR gene a double mutation and have regular labs done to monitor my levels as this gene does effect absorption. I OD'd on Vitamin D and had off the chart levels and that's not good either after being deficient for a long time so I'm off that for now. I'm also on all 3 hormones E, P, and T. At a certain age I decided to prioritize my health and make sure I optimize everything. Feel better now than I have in years.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:09 pm to
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This is pointless to take


My bloodwork begs to differ. I switched from a very expensive, very potent fish oil to Vascepa several years ago and the benefits have been maintained.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6404 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:17 pm to
Fish oil works.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2928 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Fish oil works.


It can be a great source of omegas, but you have to be careful to make sure it hasn't gone rancid-- which is harder to know when it's in capsules.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
1512 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:06 pm to
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My bloodwork begs to differ. I switched from a very expensive, very potent fish oil to Vascepa several years ago and the benefits have been maintained.





What changed in your bloodwork? and were you able to pinpoint that fish oil was the only thing you changed in your diet in that timeframe ?
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:23 pm to
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What changed in your bloodwork? and were you able to pinpoint that fish oil was the only thing you changed in your diet in that timeframe ?


Triglycerides and HDL. Both high triglycerides and lower-than-optimal HDL run in my family. It hit me abruptly at 31. I can pinpoint that based on having a thyroid condition since the age of 24 that resulted in me having bloodwork at least once every six months to this day, and for the rest of my life. Triglycerides jumped into the mid-300s. HDL was around 28 (should be 40 or more).

I immediately found and began taking a quality, high-dose fish oil, OceanBlue Professional 2,100mg (kept behind the pharmacy counter in any Publix, which frequently offers a BOGO for some percentage off on it). At any rate, they had to check me again in three months because of the sudden variance. The HDL was likely always low and I just never thought much about it. At that next check, the triglycerides were cut to less than half and the HDL was nearing 35.

I maintain those triglyceride numbers today (will turn 44 this month) and my HDL has been above 40 for a while now. I caught it early. The ONLY thing that changed in that time was me adding the fish oil. I did make the switch to Vascepa which is pure EPA several years ago and it seems to perform comparably.

My grandfather suffered with heart issues for many, many years. His brother died early in life (pre-40) and was himself a cardiologist. Anything I can do to stave off the issues they had, I will absolutely do.
Posted by OK Roughneck
The Sooner State
Member since Aug 2021
9522 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 2:27 pm to
I take a daily vitamin. When I turned 50 my parents gave me a bottle of geritol vitamins as a gag gift. We all thought it was funny.
I started taking them a week later and after 4 days I could tell a difference in how I felt when I got up in the morning. I didn't have all of the aches I had constantly felt for a long time. I think they help.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37733 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 4:55 pm to
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My bloodwork begs to differ. I switched from a very expensive, very potent fish oil to Vascepa several years ago and the benefits have been maintained.

You beat me to it.

I'm on Vascepa as well and it's been incredible according to my blood work.

I do take certain supplements, always on top of a meal. My Internist of 40+ years has, over time, come to be a strong supporter of certain supplements like Berbine+ (with pepper), Cinnamon, D3, Chromium Picolinate, a proper Calcium/Magnesium/Zinc combo, Potassium, D³, Cherry Tart and a good probiotic.

I heal fast, (I was home after ooen heart surgery in 91 hours setting the record at our hospital), I recover quickly, I feel good for my age.

My vitamin C comes from my homemade green tea daily with a splash of ascorbic acid (fruit fresh).

Everything is about maximizing absorption combined with eating healthy and exercise.
Posted by whitez
Member since Jul 2023
24 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:27 pm to
I take protein and vitamins D, Omega 3 and Zptropin 160. It is HGH that can promote the breakdown of fat cells (lipolysis), leading to a reduction in body fat percentage, muscle growth and strength. I ordered it for sale at reliable online store. Of course it is better to consult with doctor before taking any supplements.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15720 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:33 pm to
Creatine works and anyone who says otherwise never took creatine.

Nothing wrong with a multi-vitamin, fish oil, vitamin d, c, etc either. Today's diets suck even when you know what you're doing
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124686 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:34 pm to
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I don’t look (or act) my age


Pics?
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1536 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:42 pm to
I’ve also been told multis are useless, to take them individually. I’ve also read that the US receives most synthetic vitamins and supplements from China, so be sure you know where you are getting them from.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3244 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 2:44 pm to
I just make sure the wife gets her vitamin D a few times per week.

Seems to be working.
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