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re: If there was a limited nuclear strike on America, what would happen?

Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:20 am to
Posted by leeman101
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2020
1514 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:20 am to
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if Russia or China tried a “limited” strike our response would decimate them They know that.


It is the big boys I'm not worried about, cause they know the long term consequences and are fairly sane. It is the little guys, wannabe's like Iran or North Korea with the nothing to lose mentality.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24980 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:41 am to
No such thing as a limited nuclear strike it’s all or nothing.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
1895 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:44 am to
LINK / this article from paul craig roberts says a high altitude nuclear explosion would take out the national electric grid. so it only takes one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262284 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:46 am to
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you clowns are totally controlled by the very people


He's asking a theoretical question on a message board, which is meant for such theoretical questions.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:48 am to
What's more likely is that nuke is set off high above the cities creating an EMP. Probably several of em, being carried by weather balloons, you know.... the kind we don't see until they are well into our mainland.
Destroying the circuitry in anything the wave hits. In that instant, life would revert back to times when we had no running water, electricity, vehicles, etc
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:50 am to
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It is the big boys I'm not worried about, cause they know the long term consequences and are fairly sane. It is the little guys, wannabe's like Iran or North Korea with the nothing to lose mentality.


If I was a "big boy", I'd do it and make it look like someone else did it.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5820 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:52 am to
I would hope it cleans out The Swamp in D.C. of all the evil creatures that have long inhabited there!
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29291 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:53 am to
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Democrats would celebrate in the streets.


Kind of hard to do when you’re incinerated.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119136 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:57 am to
FEMA map of a full scale nuclear exchange:

Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1663 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 8:58 am to
If they hit Baltimore, would we even notice?
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25056 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:05 am to
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If there was a limited nuclear strike on America, what would happen?

If you have to ask, you're not ready. Not at all.

Even a limited strike anywhere on US soil would unleash an EMP that would wipe out all vehicles, electronics, and the entire grid from coast to coast, and into even Canada and Mexico. There is no escaping the EMP.

The US as we have come to currently know it would be dead within seconds. Automobiles manufactured past the 1960s would be road ornaments. Trains, planes, ships and boats, all would grind to a halt, causing the supply chain to die where it stands. Food no longer gets where it needs to go. Medical supplies and other necessary and sundry items no longer make it to shelves. The banks don't work, and whatever money you had there is lost. The average American will be in a complete existential panic and overwhelmed with fear and desperation, and you'll have to face them when they come looking to get some of whatever you may or may not have. When people have no food, no transportation, no medical supplies, no temperature controlled environment and begin to realize it's now the new norm, the proverbial "SHTF" will occur.

You don't EVER want a limited nuclear strike. Anywhere. From the few things I listed above from the EMP alone, you can imagine what else will go down.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262284 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:07 am to
Hit Hollywood, and the American people would give up their will to live.

All their idolatry wouldn't exist.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64556 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:09 am to



...and a run on home bomb shelters!
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4652 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:11 am to
Can we really take the FEMA map seriously? Everyone knows 30A is a top target.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119136 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:20 am to
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If you have to ask, you're not ready. Not at all.


This company sells EMP equipment for your car and electronic equipment. IDK how effective it is and it gives me pause when I read their FAQ on how it works: LINK

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How Does EMP Shield Work?
The EMP Shield can see and protect all the electronics and equipment connected to your electrical system.

This is accomplished by shunting (shorting) the over voltage coming in from the Grid and the voltage surges that are collected within your home.

Whether the electrons are collected within your home or are attempting to come into your electrical system from outside the home (the grid), the EMP Shield will see the surge and protect your electrical system. Since the shunting is completed incredibly fast (500 trillionths of a second), the over voltage is pulled away from the equipment before the voltage can rise high enough to damage any equipment. We call this new technology SightSpeed™ and it ensures no heat is generated within the electrical system which protects all electronics connect to the system.



Going back to college physics, it's not the electrons. It's the magnetic force that produces a electromagnetic field orthogonal to to the magnetic field that is beyond the carrying capacity of the conductive wire, so it just burns up like a light bulb filament.

Energy is waves, just like the ocean and conductive material with electrons are the medium in which the energy travels. When energy travels through the ocean it travels through the medium and does not carry matter with it. Same applies to electricity. Electrons move very slowly when electricity moves through wires.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119136 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:22 am to
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Can we really take the FEMA map seriously? Everyone knows 30A is a top target.



That's a good point. I can't believe Elgin is not a high value target.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29291 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:49 am to
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Even a limited strike anywhere on US soil would unleash an EMP that would wipe out all vehicles, electronics, and the entire grid from coast to coast, and into even Canada and Mexico. There is no escaping the EMP.


That kind of EMP would occur through a high-altitude detonation, not from a one-off ground burst in a city.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14182 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:51 am to
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decimate

This implies only a 10% loss. It would be far worse than that.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24980 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:53 am to
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this article from paul craig roberts says a high altitude nuclear explosion would take out the national electric grid. so it only takes one.


Premise of the book one second after. Three nukes detonated on edge of space wiped out the grid damn near nation wide. Launched from container ships..
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 2/7/24 at 9:56 am to
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quote:
Even a limited strike anywhere on US soil would unleash an EMP that would wipe out all vehicles, electronics, and the entire grid from coast to coast, and into even Canada and Mexico. There is no escaping the EMP.


That kind of EMP would occur through a high-altitude detonation, not from a one-off ground burst in a city.


Yes. High altitude.
Possibly carried by weather balloons?
I May be wrong, but it would take several set off spread out from one another to effect the entire US.
I don't think one would do it.
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