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re: State of emergency, LEO shortage -Jeff Landry

Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:15 am to
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:15 am to
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RPSO just arrested an illegal on I49 carrying carrying only 70k worth of herroin. $3200 bail.


The sheriff level is a good place to start this, as they work independently of the terribly corrupt big cities etc. if they produce results and don't piss people off, they'll stay in office.

A sheriff can tell pretty much anyone to get themselves good and fricked.

Empowering them is a solid step, but there needs to be others, like making sure the right sheriff is in place.

It was always true, but covid really showed us nationally how important these positions can be.

Local elections matter, especially sheriff, mayor, School board and the gatekeeping positions those positions allow them to fill with their people.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116318 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:16 am to
Nothing will change drastically in NOLA until the consent decree dies.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9181 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:18 am to
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Not sure how/if that helps smaller municipalities and local PD’s


Nobody cares about places where the only crime is a speeder who didn't see the 5 MPH drop in speed limit sign hidden behind a tree and got pulled over by a "cop" who was sitting in a place where his tires have worn grooves in the dirt.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:27 am to
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Nobody cares about places where the only crime is a speeder who didn't see the 5 MPH drop in speed limit sign hidden behind a tree and got pulled over by a "cop" who was sitting in a place where his tires have worn grooves in the dirt.


No but let's say you're the most powerful governor in the country.

You empower those outskirts, surround the (blue)cities with law and order, then starve them of funding through as many other means as you can.

If they don't play ball, you just take the game elsewhere.

Maybe literally. Corps wanna play in Louisiana?
Saints want a new stadium?

Cool. It's gonna be outside the city, and sentencing for property violations and violent crime is going through the roof, and those SD's are gonna be empowered to enforce it.

The "right" needs to take the initiative and use power when they have it.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14255 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:32 am to
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Will this be utilized to actually address crime or raise more revenue?


Speeding is a crime, regardless of what I or you might think. If reducing speeders leads to more money, used to hire more cops, so be it. I would rather pay a hundred dollar speeding ticket than spend a week on the county farm as punishment for my speeding crime.

In Jackson (my favorite example of a crime plagued rat hole) many criminals are caught when they are pulled over for speeding, weaving through traffic, or some other violation of traffic laws.

I speed, just like everyone else. I do it, knowing that excessive speed often leads to traffic accidents that injure or kill others. So does weaving through traffic, cutting folks off. running stop lights, turning without using a turn signal, texting while driving, drinking a cold one while or before driving, bla, bla bla.


Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:46 am to
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Speeding is a crime,


Not like property crime or violent crime.

It's vehicular jaywalking and functionaly just a tax.

This isn't the point here, so whatever. Id like to see "us" write off cops as a COST, not something to self-fund, because that effectively becomes their mission instead of actually stopping the shitbirds

Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
978 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 8:56 am to
Good people are targeted and ostracized from industries and institutions with deep systemic corruption such as law enforcement, eventually causing them to seek other employment. What you're left with is a bunch of corrupt good ole baw thug pigs who all have each others backs. That's what law enforcement is today. That's why they can't hire and keep people.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35558 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:02 am to
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This isn't the point here, so whatever. Id like to see "us" write off cops as a COST, not something to self-fund, because that effectively becomes their mission instead of actually stopping the shitbirds



For some retarded reason people want every function of government to turn a profit or at least be completely self sustaining without the need for tax dollars.

Creates extremely perverse incentives but who cares about that I guess.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:02 am to
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Good people are targeted and ostracized from industries and institutions with deep systemic corruption such as law enforcement, eventually causing them to seek other employment. What you're left with is a bunch of corrupt good ole baw thug pigs who all have each others backs. That's what law enforcement is today. That's why they can't hire and keep people.


I've been where you are and I completely understand those arguments. CAF, QI, all of it.

I think the difference now is I've lost patience with the coddling of the violent criminal element, and grown tired of LE pushing out to the burbs to give stopsign, hands free and seatbelt tickets to soccer moms.

They won't get shot, they get their money, and the criminals keep going.

These reforms have to come with strings that require "scalps" so to speak, and not just presence and budget boosting.

The fix isn't leaving the criminals to their own devices. Weve done it. It doesn't work.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 9:04 am
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
17061 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:03 am to
Increase the pay
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48760 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:06 am to
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Violent crime prevention does not generate money. See it for what it is.

While I agree that crime is a major issue facing this state, what is the governor supposed to do about it? I find that to be more of a localized problem to solve no matter who is in office
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84887 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:12 am to
Focusing on revenue collection first public safety second is perverse.

Every penny you’re spending on having some yokel shoot radar is a penny you’re not spending on solving felonies.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9648 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:12 am to
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Increase the pay


Once they ditch their public sector unions.

Cop unions are the reason for the bad, corrupt cops that get a DUI and then a slap on the wrist because of police unions are a fricking joke.

They need to be held to a higher, more professional standard. But that will never happen with police unions. Police unions exist for "CYA" and to negotiate against taxpayers.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1536 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:17 am to
The consent decree needs to die. All it’s done is give thugs free rein. A NOLA cop told me that. Their hands are tied.
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
1920 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:22 am to
I believe if Louisiana were its own country, it'd have the highest incarceration rates of any country, like 300+.
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
1920 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:26 am to
There isn't a single thing you can do about crime besides what that El Salvador pres did, by locking them up and having an even already extremely, exteremely high incarceration rate in Louisiana.

Any move where the thugs in Louisiana are left in the street will always result in crime continuing. There's no program, or extra officers, or anything that'll make it go down. The absolute only way possible is for them to be removed from society and put in a prison.

If they are left for their own free will, it will 100% continue to happen.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48760 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:28 am to
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There isn't a single thing you can do about crime besides what that El Salvador pres did, by locking them up and having an even already extremely, exteremely high incarceration rate in Louisiana

Mass incarceration for violent crime works
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9501 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:32 am to
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believe if Louisiana were its own country, it'd have the highest incarceration rates of any country, like 300+

Obviously for good reason
How many wrongful convictions?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9648 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:35 am to
Incarceration is one step. Old school sanitariums and asylums need to be built and housed as well.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 9:37 am
Posted by Saunson69
Member since May 2023
1920 posts
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:36 am to
$3200 bail is bad for kilos of heroine like that. I've seen other states give $50,000 bail for something wayyyyy less than that much heroine. It was like a some drunk guy slapped a girls arse in public and got $50k bail for that.
This post was edited on 2/18/24 at 10:03 am
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