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USAF plans to retire more A-10 Warthogs; “crippling” close air support capabilities
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:12 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:12 am
Brrrrrrrtt…
Shame to see a legend moving into retirement. A portion of these should be reallocated to the Coast Guard for counter-trafficking operations.
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Shame to see a legend moving into retirement. A portion of these should be reallocated to the Coast Guard for counter-trafficking operations.
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The Air Force is hoping to retire more A-10 Warthogs in 2025, as the service continues to readjust its overall strategies and future aircraft based on China's growing threat in the Pacific. In their 2025 budget request, Air Force officials are hoping to retire 250 aircraft -- with 56 of those divestments being A-10s. If passed, it would mark the largest number of the close-air support stalwarts sent to the boneyard -- the final resting place for scrapped aircraft.
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Rose Riley, a Department of the Air Force spokeswoman, told Military.com last year that the service plans to shrink the Tactical Air Control Party, or TACP, job field to about 2,130 positions -- a decrease of 44%, according to the service. The Air Force said the manning is now "roughly" 3,700 airmen.
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Troops-In-Contact, an advocacy group led by A-10 and air support veterans, issued a statement after the cuts were revealed saying close-air support, or CAS, is crucial to the military.
"If successful, this plan would kill the CAS profession and cripple America's CAS capability," the group wrote on its website. "Ground troops would be supported, if at all, by CAS amateurs in a small, expensive fleet of fragile aircraft that are far less effective. In low-intensity conflict, that will cost lives."
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Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:23 am to HenryParsons
I understand that the current fleet is very aged, but can we not build more of these? Why are we insisting on replacing these ultimate fighting machines with less reliable planes?
Like insisting on finding a better option for installing a nail than with a hammer. Sometimes you have to admit that you've already discovered the best option.
Like insisting on finding a better option for installing a nail than with a hammer. Sometimes you have to admit that you've already discovered the best option.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:35 am to HenryParsons
These A-10's aren't going to be crushed and turned into beer cans or anything. They'll head to the yard and become spare parts for the rest of the fleet that still flies....which will help extend the lives of those aircraft.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:36 am to HenryParsons
I am a yuge warthog fan but the time is coming. These airframes are old and the mission set is not needed as much since we are now transitioning back to Great Power Competition. In a modern conflict with China or Russia the A-10 would not have good survivability odds.
That being said, we need a CAS option in reserve just in case. Nothing else in the fleet can do it.
That being said, we need a CAS option in reserve just in case. Nothing else in the fleet can do it.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:38 am to HenryParsons
Are they going to donate them to the Taliban?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 8:44 am to HenryParsons
Let's be honest. USAF has wanted to shitcan these for a long, long time. Too cheap and effective and PAID FOR. No Generals getting Board positions and kickbacks for these. Need mo $100 million fighters!!!
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:08 am to HenryParsons
Idiots at the Pentagon have been trying to get rid of thus aircraft since it hit the flightline.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:09 am to HenryParsons
put them on govplanet auctions
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:18 am to HenryParsons
The A-10 Warthog has always been my favorite plane in the AF inventory. While in the Air Force, I remember watching them take-off and you wondered if it was ever going to get off the ground...lol! Gonna miss this old warbird!
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:19 am to HenryParsons
They told us for years that the F22 was going to be the most dominant thing ever. A few years into its career they said it's cancelled. And now they're saying it's going to get a block of upgrades. They've been trying to dump the A10 forever - probably so they can justify a new acquisitions program for the "next Close Air Support platform" and do it like the F35 - behind schedule and dramatically over budget. All of this is a scam.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:23 am to HenryParsons
The A-10 is cool as shite but it's time came and went a long time ago. Look at Ukraine, which is the exact fight the Warthog was built for, it wouldn't last five minutes in that airspace.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:37 am to HenryParsons
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A portion of these should be reallocated to the Coast Guard for counter-trafficking operations.
They would look pretty slick in the white and orange livery.
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"Ground troops would be supported, if at all, by CAS amateurs in a small, expensive fleet of fragile aircraft that are far less effective. In low-intensity conflict, that will cost lives."
Is this a direct shot at the F-35 or do they speak of other things?
And I suppose “they” “have” to do this so they can buy more F-35s.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:51 am to HenryParsons
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"If successful, this plan would kill the CAS profession and cripple America's CAS capability," the group wrote on its website. "Ground troops would be supported, if at all, by CAS amateurs in a small, expensive fleet of fragile aircraft that are far less effective. In low-intensity conflict, that will cost lives."
All part of the plan.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:52 am to HenryParsons
Posted on 3/19/24 at 9:57 am to HenryParsons
drones are cheaper and no pilot at risk
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:02 am to HenryParsons
But we gave all that money to fund Ukrainian pensions....
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:15 am to HenryParsons
(Given the updated revelations on the subversive agenda of the Empire)
Does it seem what's being "retired" are legendary Death Machines which had no legit reasons to begin with in conducting their "business" against sovereign nations & peoples defending themselves?
Does it seem what's being "retired" are legendary Death Machines which had no legit reasons to begin with in conducting their "business" against sovereign nations & peoples defending themselves?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:09 am to HenryParsons
This is great; as soon as the USAF retires then, the Army is going to buy them all and bring fixed wing CAS back to Army doctrine.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:58 am to HenryParsons
Move them over to border patrol.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 12:03 pm to HenryParsons
The last A-10 rolled off the line in 1984...so the newest of these planes turns 40 this year. It seems like the best plan would be to start making some more of these (with updates) to replace those put to pasture...
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