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re: I've been wondering about the UFO issue. I'm very skeptical. but ...

Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:09 pm to
I’m sorry but it seems like your argument is “I don’t understand technology ‘X’ so it must be demons?”
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:15 pm to
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I sense that you rely on your senses (as does science) What about things that cannot be sensed /perceived readily… You would claim “nonsense”. Science would reaffirm that it does not exist…


Quantum interactions, radiation, gravity, wave-particle duality, a whole host of phenomena cannot be ‘perceived readily,’ are you suggesting that science thinks these don’t exist? Or do you just have no idea how science actually operates.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15742 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:15 pm to
It’s our tech. Government is very secretive about it for a reason. Our adversaries don’t have it. The latest reveals as “UAPs” are to signal to China and Russia to stay in line.
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Especially right now with some of the End Time prophecy seeming to play out.


People have been saying this for literally thousands of years.
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:21 pm to
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As well, I do not believe we came from nothing and all of a sudden ...... bang! If so, how did we get to be so lucky that all of this was just for us?


Just to play devils advocate on this topic, this is called the “anthropic principle,” which essentially states that it shouldn’t be so surprising that we find ourselves in a universe where the conditions for life to exist occur. If they didn’t, we wouldn’t be here to talk about it. Additionally, given a potentially unlimited timeline and number of opportunities, it’s not too surprising that one of them turned out nicely for life like ours to develop. If anything, we should expect far more occurrences of life to exist.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25449 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:22 pm to
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the UFO issue



3 pages and still no damn explanation of what you're talking about.

Are you saying UFO's in general, or a specific "issue" ??


fricking hate these cryptic threads.
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:23 pm to
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The only logical explanation that I can come up with is that has to be Biblical angelic beings and the satanic demons of Lucifer.


That’s truly the ONLY logical explanation you can dream up? Straight to angels and demons?
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:27 pm to
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I don't claim to have the answers but can you honestly disregard the footage of objects moving at high speeds from air then into water and not losing speed under the water with much more resistance? Are they ours? I don't know. But to call them crackpot, tinfoil nonsense is just ignorant.


I’m not disregarding anything, I would love it if we found definitive proof of advanced (or even primitive) alien life. But to jump from “I don’t understand it” to “it must be angels and demons” is absolutely tinfoil crackpot religious nutjobbery at its finest.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56498 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:35 pm to
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The question is what is really going on.
Holographic projections from space.
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4035 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:38 pm to
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I'm skeptical that aliens would be so elusive and discrete
I think you meant to use the term discreet.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5960 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:50 pm to
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But to jump from “I don’t understand it” to “it must be angels and demons” is absolutely tinfoil crackpot religious nutjobbery at its finest.


You misquoted me as I did not mention anything in what you responded to me.

But since you went there, can you explain angels and demons to us simple minded folks being that every religion on the planet and throughout history talks of these entities?
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4448 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:00 pm to
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I’m sorry but it seems like your argument is “I don’t understand technology ‘X’ so it must be demons?


No. Not at all. You need to read a bit more carefully. I go through several possibilities and respond to each.

So your mischaracterizing my thought process.

Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:39 pm to
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But since you went there, can you explain angels and demons to us simple minded folks being that every religion on the planet and throughout history talks of these entities?


Every religion on the planet, or just the few you’re familiar with? People come up with explanations for things they don’t understand or don’t know how to process. Our imaginations are incredibly powerful. Ghosts and Bigfoot fall in the same category.
Posted by Electricboogaloo2
Member since Mar 2024
77 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:42 pm to
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No. Not at all. You need to read a bit more carefully. I go through several possibilities and respond to each. So your mischaracterizing my thought process.


That’s the thing, you don’t really “go through” anything. You kind of just string a bunch of word salad stream of consciousness words together and end up talking about angels and shite. That’s why no one in this entire thread has any idea what you’re talking about.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29198 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:43 pm to
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our tech. Government is very secretive about it for a reason. Our adversaries don’t have it. The latest reveals as “UAPs” are to signal to China and Russia to stay in line.


Too bad we didn’t use “our technology” when we were handed our asses in Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, and the list goes on and on. Must be just for fun.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5196 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:49 pm to
“So that you have the energy of the moon at night,” said Jackson Lee. “And sometimes you’ve heard the word ‘full moon. Sometimes, you need to take the opportunity just to come out and see a full moon is that complete-rounded circle, which is made up mostly of gases. And that’s why the question is: Why or how could we as humans live on the moon? Are the gases such that we could do that?”

“I don’t know about you, but I want to be first in line to learn how to live and survive on the moon,” Jackson Lee said. That’s another planet that we’re going to see shortly.”

“The sun is a mighty powerful heat, but it’s almost impossible to go near the sun,” Jackson Lee said. “The moon is more manageable.”
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
6001 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:52 pm to
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Too bad we didn’t use “our technology” when we were handed our asses in Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, and the list goes on and on. Must be just for fun.


I mean.. if it's tech. it's not ours. we're well behind China and Russia on hypersonic. our missile defense is the best in the world but easily defeatable. we would've used this tech to end conflicts or at least warn the world to STFU. there would be no point in flying F35s or F22s if it were our tech.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
939 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 9:57 pm to
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We've never discovered fabricated or man-made objects that appear to be significantly ahead of their time or out of place in the context of the historical timeline.


You lost me here. We've absolutely found stuff far ahead of its time before, or at least far according to human time frames
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4448 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:02 pm to
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That’s the thing, you don’t really “go through” anything. You kind of just string a bunch of word salad stream of consciousness words together and end up talking about angels and shite. That’s why no one in this entire thread has any idea what you’re talking about


So you think it is poorly written. That's fair. I reread it and I don't see it. But your entitled to your opinion.

I start with the premise that these phenomena are real, as opposed to optical illusions, photographic manipulations ect. I do address Aliens, man-made, lost civilization possibilities. I don't get into time travel.

I probably discount aliens a bit too easily. But that's because I'm just skeptical of the entire premise. I don't understand the motivation. I don't understand the lack of real evidence. I could be wrong.. And we could get more detailed, but I just didn't want to go there.




This post was edited on 4/20/24 at 10:36 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4448 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 10:04 pm to
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You lost me here. We've absolutely found stuff far ahead of its time before, or at least far according to human time frames


Give me examples. I'm not familiar with what your alluding to.
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