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Another train derailment

Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:19 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
8274 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:19 am
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No worries, guys! Mayor Pete is on the job!!!

Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg addressed the massive derailment in a social media post, saying, “We are coordinating across state, Tribal, and local agencies to ensure safety in the region. Please follow state and local guidance for detour information around I-40.”

Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs also took to social media to react to the derailment.

“I am deeply concerned about the train derailment along the Arizona-New Mexico border and am monitoring the situation closely,” Hobbs wrote. “My administration is in contact with Secretary Buttigieg and the New Mexican government. As we learn more about the situation on the ground, the State of Arizona stands ready to deploy the resources necessary to keep our communities safe.”
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
15868 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:20 am to
This is what you can expect when you have a diversity hire as Secretary of Transportation.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68241 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:22 am to
FedGov wants us out of cars and into trains.

Hmmm...
Posted by NotPrepared
Member since Jun 2020
157 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:50 am to
Complex system wont survive the competency crisis
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68241 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:45 am to

Has climate change been blamed?
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
427 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:57 am to
Looks like accidents are down significantly on Mayor Pete's watch
https://www.statista.com/statistics/204569/rail-accidents-in-the-us/
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11502 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:12 am to
Mayor Pete will look into this as soon as he finishes his personal time.
Full time diva. Part time Transportation Secretary.

Remember, this is the administration that blew up Nordstream. They don't care about the environment.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
1074 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 2:53 pm to
I watched this video of it yesterday. They interviewed the Arizona state legislators director for smart transportation union division. He has some good insight on this particular one. They have been worried about these type of accidents happening.

There has been 30 de-railments in Arizona since 2018.

Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25420 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:35 pm to
Huh? Pete didn't wait several days or weeks before speaking out on this?
Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
3936 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 4:03 pm to
Our issues with our railroads comes directly from Precision Schedule Railroading, which basically amounts to greedy, unchecked capitalism. Pretty typical situation where you have a bunch of rich conservatives risking other people's safety and well-being for profits. I'm sure that CSX loved the Buttigieg appointment as it made it real easy for them to hide behind a dumb culture war and convince poor conservatives that it's not an evil corporation harming people, it's some random gay man.

LINK

Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
1074 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:52 pm to
Pete already handled the problem. LOL

I don't if these new laws were implemented before the 3 derailments discussed in this thread.

Tuesday, April 2, 2024

Biden-Harris Administration Announces Final Rule on Train Crew Size Safety Requirements to Improve Rail Safety
https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/biden-harris-administration-announces-final-rule-train-crew-size-safety-requirements

quote:

WASHINGTON – Today, as part of the Biden-Harris Administration’s ongoing efforts to strengthen rail safety and hold railroads accountable, Secretary Pete Buttigieg announced that the U.S. Department of Transportation’s Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) has issued a final rule establishing minimum safety requirements for the size of train crews. The new rule enhances safety in the rail industry by generally requiring and emphasizing the importance and necessity of a second crewmember on all trains.

“Common sense tells us that large freight trains, some of which can be over three miles long, should have at least two crew members on board - and now there’s a federal regulation in place to ensure trains are safely staffed,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. “This rule requiring safe train crew sizes is long overdue, and we are proud to deliver this change that will make workers, passengers, and communities safer.”


How it got to Pete's desk
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4062966-norfolk-southern-engineer-raised-concerns-ahead-of-ohio-derailment/amp/

quote:

A Norfolk Southern engineer expressed concerns to a supervisor about the length of the train that would later derail in East Palestine, Ohio, but the reservations went unaddressed, according to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB).

The NTSB report released Thursday said the engineer from Decatur, Ill., expressed the concerns to the yardmaster but was told, “Well, this is what they [Norfolk Southern] want.
The engineer reportedly told investigators that “if you talk to the manager, they said this train was 100 percent rule compliant,” adding, “To me, in my opinion, you got 32 percent of the weight on the headend.”

“Twenty percent in the middle and 40 percent weight on the rearend,” they continued. “So, to me, that’s why we reported that to the yardmaster and like I said, this is what they want.”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/business/railroads-warned-about-the-problems-long-trains-can-cause/amp/

quote:

Currently, there aren’t any restrictions on train length but members of Congress and state lawmakers in at least six states have proposed establishing limits particularly in the wake of the fiery Feb. 3 Norfolk Southern derailment in Ohio. The major freight railroads have pushed back against that idea because they have increasingly come to rely on longer trains to help them move cargo with fewer crews and mechanics as they overhauled their operations over the past six years. Union Pacific CEO Lance Fritz said recently that he doesn’t think accident data shows that long trains are riskier.

But the Federal Railroad Administration cited three derailments involving trains longer than 12,250 feet (3,734 meters) where train length was a factor in its advisory. That agency and the National Academies of Sciences are both in the middle of studying the impact of long trains, and they expect to issue reports next year on whether they are a problem.

The derailments mentioned as examples of the problems that can accompany long trains were in Springfield, Ohio, in March; in Ravenna, Ohio, last November; and in Rockwell, Iowa, in March 2022. In each of those cases, the way cars in different parts of the train pulled and pushed against each other contributed to the derailments.

This latest advisory follows one earlier this month that directed railroads to re-examine the way they assemble their trains to minimize those kind of forces that often come into play as a train goes over hills and around corners. Parts of a train can be pulling forward going up a hill while the middle or back of the train pushes against the rest of the cars while going down a hill.

The Federal Railroad Administration said that in addition to the concerns about derailments, long trains can block crossings for extended periods of time. When crossings are blocked, firefighters, police and ambulance drivers may be delayed in getting someone the help that they need, and pedestrians may risk their lives by crawling under or across stopped trains that could start moving without warning.

The states proposing limits on train size this year include Arizona, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Nevada and Washington.



Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8749 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:56 pm to
Here's a wild and crazy idea...

How about if ALLLLL of those foreign aid hundreds of billion$ earmarked to Ukraine, Israel, along with up-keep of 750 military bases are re-routed BACK to the USA ??

And maybe it's a much better investment to help upgrade and ensure the safety of the USA's thousands of miles of crumbling roads, bridges, railways, and infrastructure?? (rather than "investing" in foreign blood sacrifice)

Just sayin'.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 12:49 pm to
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New Mexican government.


I lived in New Mexico for 5 years, my oldest son was born there. I've never heard it called the "New Mexican" anything.
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