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re: Hush Money Trial
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:57 am to Tigers4Lyfe
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:57 am to Tigers4Lyfe
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Can anyone who may be paying more attention to this than me tell me why it's illegal to bury unflattering stories?
It is not illegal, but it is not what he is charged with nor is it an element of the crime he is charged with. It is however a part of the fact pattern which makes his alleged business record violations illegal. This is similar to the NY Executive Law 63(12) trial that preceded it in that it is a late that is broken all the time and his company and maybe he is actually guilty. Both are unique laws to NY and likely every business of any size is guilty of breaking them. It is selective enforcement although that is not unconstitutional and happens thousands of times a day across the US, most are not politically motivated.
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:58 am to Darth_Vader
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they saw there was no crime to prosecute.
Even though the feds did prosecute and convict Cohen? Hmmm.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 8:58 am to Tigers4Lyfe
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Can anyone who may be paying more attention to this than me tell me why it's illegal to bury unflattering stories?
In a nutshell, they are saying OMB was using campaign funds to pay them off.
It's unfortunate in a couple of ways. Unfortunate for the governement that this is the same case that got dropped because there was nothing they could convict OMB on a couple of years ago. Unfortunate for Trump, that no matter where he goes to court, it's stacked against him.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:01 am to Kracka
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no matter where he goes to court, it's stacked against him.
This is the case for anyone when there is a mountain of evidence showing that laws were broken.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:05 am to Tigers4Lyfe
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Can anyone who may be paying more attention to this than me tell me why it's illegal to bury unflattering stories?
As far as I can tell, it's not. I believe the issue is the misuse, or misappropriation of campaign funds.
The morality of it isn't on trial, it's the legality of what account it came from??
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:08 am to TheEnglishman
@TheEnglishman
Thank you.
Thank you.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:45 am to victoire sécurisé
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One could also argue that the DOJ could easily have charged him with federal campaign finance violations.
Then why didn't they? Didn't the Feds look at this case and pass on it?
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:48 am to UpInSmokeDownDaBayou
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In a nutshell, they are saying OMB was using campaign funds to pay them off.
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As far as I can tell, it's not. I believe the issue is the misuse, or misappropriation of campaign funds.
I don't think campaign funds have anything to do with this case.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:49 am to BabyTac
Trump was an outstanding president
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:01 am to Tigers4Lyfe
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So is there more to this case than just that in a vacuum?
Well, someone did try to pass it off as a business expense. (Beyond unlikely that it Trump himself.) But anyone else would have gotten a letter disallowing the business expense and asking for a check for the amended tax debt.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:06 am to Tigers4Lyfe
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Can anyone who may be paying more attention to this than me tell me why it's illegal to bury unflattering stories?
It isn't.
Our own US Congress has a taxpayer funded "slush fund" set aside specifically for this scenario.
They use it when the "worthy" Uniparty stooges need it.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I don't think campaign funds have anything to do with this case.
You right, this one is trying to convict him of influencing the election by having SD and the other woman payed off to not tell their story.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
It’s ridiculous assertions like this are why you can’t be taken seriously. They would create some other made up issue to indict him on
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:56 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
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Can anyone who may be paying more attention to this than me tell me why it's illegal to bury unflattering stories?
It’s not. It’s a total waste of time to prove that Trump tried to hide unflattering stories when none of the activity is illegal.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:59 pm to Rip Torner
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It’s ridiculous assertions like this are why you can’t be taken seriously
You are arguing I can't be taken seriously by explaining the argument/reasoning of people you disagree with? Oh boy.
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:05 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The DOJ? This is a NY state court proceeding.
Its been confirmed that all 3 prosecutors (Bragg, Smith and Willis) met with WH staffers before "charges" were announced. Bragg actually met with Biden's staff on March 17th, days before the "charges" were announced.
The DOJ is involved with this and to think otherwise is being dishonest with yourself.
Additionally: Smith actually went to Biden's office per WH logs. And Wade went to DC twice to meet with "WH staffers".
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’ve come to the conclusion, as a general matter, that any attorney I come into contact with on this topic whose first instinct isn’t to opine on how fricked up it is and denounce an utterly obvious unconscionable exploitation of and for shining an illegitimate spotlight on our profession……. I immediately know that this attorney isn’t of respectable character or quality.
Now once what should be that instinctive gut reaction is out of the way, then I would totally get the attorney has a certain mindset for pondering some argument in support of the prosecution “if someone put a gun to my head and made me” type exercise.
Now once what should be that instinctive gut reaction is out of the way, then I would totally get the attorney has a certain mindset for pondering some argument in support of the prosecution “if someone put a gun to my head and made me” type exercise.
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 5/3/24 at 1:30 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
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Can anyone who may be paying more attention to this than me tell me why it's illegal to bury unflattering stories?
The claim that candidate Trump was interfering with the election by doing so is all you need to know.
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