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The side effects of Covid vaccines from the New York Slimes

Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:32 am
Posted by Mellow Drama
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:32 am
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by David Leonhardt

May 3, 2024

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‘I’m not real’

Let me start with a disclaimer: The subject of today’s newsletter will make some readers uncomfortable. It makes me a little uncomfortable.

The Times has just published an article about Americans who believe they suffered serious side effects from a Covid vaccine. More than 13,000 of them have filed vaccine-injury claims with the federal government.
My colleague Apoorva Mandavilli tells some of their stories in the article, including those of several people who work in medicine and science:

• Ilka Warshawsky, a 58-year-old pathologist, said she lost all hearing in her right ear shortly after receiving a Covid booster shot.

• Dr. Gregory Poland, 68 — no less than the editor in chief of Vaccine, a scientific journal — said that a loud whooshing sound in his ears had accompanied every moment since his first Covid shot.

• Shaun Barcavage, 54, a nurse practitioner in New York City, has experienced a ringing sound in his ears, a racing heart and pain in his eyes, mouth and genitals for more than three years. “I can’t get the government to help me,” Barcavage said. “I am told I’m not real.”

This subject is uncomfortable because it feeds into false stories about the Covid vaccines that many Americans have come to believe — namely, that the vaccines are ineffective or have side effects that exceed their benefits. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the independent presidential candidate, has promoted these stories, as have some Republican politicians and conservative media figures. “The scale of misinformation,” Dr. Joshua Sharfstein of Johns Hopkins University told Apoorva, “is staggering.”


So let me be clear: The benefits of the Covid vaccines have far outweighed the downsides, according to a voluminous amount of data and scientific studies from around the world. In the U.S. alone, the vaccines have saved at least several hundred thousand lives and perhaps more than one million, studies estimate. Rates of death, hospitalization and serious illness have all been much higher among the unvaccinated than the vaccinated.
Here is data from the C.D.C., in a chart by my colleague Ashley Wu:

Source: Our World in Data, C.D.C. | Numbers for the group “All” are age adjusted. | By The New York Times

Not only are the vaccines’ benefits enormous, but the true toll of the side effects may be lower than the perceived toll: Experts told Apoorva that some people who believe Covid vaccines have harmed them are probably wrong about the cause of their problems.

How so? Human beings suffer mysterious medical ailments all the time. If you happened to begin experiencing one in the weeks after receiving a vaccine, you might blame the shot, too, even if it were a coincidence. So far, federal officials have approved less than 2 percent of the Covid vaccine injury-compensation claims they have reviewed.

Still, some ailments almost certainly do stem from the vaccines. The C.D.C. says some people are allergic (as is the case with any vaccine). Both the C.D.C. and researchers in Israel — which has better medical tracking than the U.S. — have concluded that the vaccines contributed to heart inflammation, especially in young men and boys. Officials in Hong Kong — another place with good health care data — have concluded that the vaccines caused severe shingles in about seven vaccine recipients per million.


Honesty and trust

These side effects are worthy of attention for two main reasons.
First, people who are suffering deserve recognition — and the lack of it can be infuriating. Dr. Janet Woodcock, a former F.D.A. commissioner, told The Times that she regretted not doing more to respond to people who blame the vaccines for harming them while she was in office. “I believe their suffering should be acknowledged, that they have real problems, and they should be taken seriously,” Woodcock said.

The second reason is that public health depends on public trust, and public trust in turn depends on honesty. During the pandemic, as I’ve written in the past, government officials and academic experts sometimes made the mistake of deciding that Americans couldn’t handle the truth.


Instead, experts emphasized evidence that was convenient to their recommendations and buried inconvenient facts. They exaggerated the risk of outdoor Covid transmission, the virus’s danger to children and the benefits of mask mandates, among other things. The goal may have been admirable — fighting a deadly virus — but the strategy backfired. Many people ended up confused, wondering what the truth was.

The overall picture

Here’s my best attempt to summarize the full truth about the Covid vaccines:

They are overwhelmingly safe and effective. They have saved millions of lives and prevented untold misery around the world. They’re so valuable that elderly people and those with underlying health conditions should be vigilant about getting booster shots when they’re eligible.

For most children, on the other hand, booster shots seem to have only modest benefits, which is why many countries don’t recommend them.

And, yes, a small fraction of people will experience significant side effects from the vaccines. Eventually, scientific research may be able to better understand and reduce those side effects — which is more reason to pay attention to them.

Overall, Covid vaccines are probably the most beneficial medical breakthrough in years, if not decades.

I encourage you to read Apoorva’s article.




Posted by Mellow Drama
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Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:37 am to
hope that wasn't TL:DR

but I get email briefings from NYSlimes every morning. The liberal reasoning process is like a teacher talking to adults like they're six yrs old then bringing the pain when they don't obey.


So why read the Slimes?

This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 9:39 am
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8419 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:40 am to
Conspiracy theorists remain undefeated
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
19587 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:43 am to
My ex’s husband is dealing with a ton of health issues that she believes came from the jab.

He’s presently in the hospital with sepsis and is in pretty bad shape. He’s a military guy so he’s had all kinds of jabs.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18112 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:46 am to
I think these mfers are worried themselves so they put this shite out to see if everyone else is as scared as they are.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82220 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:49 am to
The hemming and hawing by the author of that is pathetic. What a coward he is.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11256 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 9:57 am to
mRNA is old tech, it had been sitting around for 15-20 years prior to covid.

mRNA is much easier and faster to bring to market so it would be worth billions to the entities who owned the patents on it.

If mRNA is safe, why wasn't it being used by pharma companies prior to covid?

If mRNA is old and safe, why wasn't the long term study data associated with it published?

Did pharma sit on beneficial technology that it knew was safe and would make it tens of billions in annual revenue?

Why would it do so?
This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Mellow Drama
Flyover Country
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:09 am to
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He’s presently in the hospital with sepsis and is in pretty bad shape.


That's terrible, sorry to hear that.
Posted by Mellow Drama
Flyover Country
Member since Aug 2020
3997 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

If mRNA is old and safe, why wasn't the long term study data associated with it been published?



good point!
Posted by shrevetigertom
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Member since Sep 2005
4031 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 10:14 am to
I get the newsletter every day for amusement purposes (and to see what the enemy is up to). I had to read portions of this article to my wife this morning because it was so ridiculous.
Posted by LSUbest
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Member since Aug 2007
11285 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Not only are the vaccines’ benefits enormous


Prevent infection,
I mean the spread,
I mean symptoms,
I mean severe symptoms,
I mean hospitalization,
I mean death,
I mean sometimes.

quote:

government officials and academic experts sometimes made the mistake of deciding that Americans couldn’t handle the truth.


government officials, academic experts, the medical community, and the media consistently lied about every aspect of the scamdemic in such a way that promoted unwarranted and irrational fear about the new cold virus.

It wasn't about people's inability to handle the truth, it was the opposite.
There's no profit in the truth. The truth doesn't justify all the mandates and suspension of rights.

The truth was four in ten thousand people were in danger from the virus if they had other serious medical conditions, the rest of us are going to get sick but will be fine.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111609 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:10 am to
quote:

They are overwhelmingly safe and effective.


They are 100% not effective. If they were studied today for approval, it’s unlikely that any of the Covid vaccines would pass the bar for efficacy required of vaccines in a long-term trial.

They are “largely” safe. That is to say that the number of people affected, as a percentage of those who were vaccinated, by serious adverse events is small.

That number, however, is large enough and significant enough, that if the vaccine adverse events were seriously evaluated like all other drugs are evaluated in the United States, it is unlikely that they would be approved based upon their AE profile.
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
3113 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 11:42 am to
Well tell that to the parents of the 30 kids who recently died suddenly in April of this year from the jab.

LINK /

Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5067 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

This subject is uncomfortable because it feeds into false stories about the Covid vaccines that many Americans have come to believe — namely, that the vaccines are ineffective or have side effects that exceed their benefits.


And yet, here they are talking about side effects that people have had since their first covid vaccination. Would these not make up the same stories they refer to as false stories, or are these different? More of the same stupid day one and they covered them up and millions more were injured because - safe and effective.


This post was edited on 5/3/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted by SquaringCircles
Member since Sep 2021
1481 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 3:18 pm to
Lol. These people cannot be reasoned with. They are in a cult. Vaccines can and do cause damage that you don't even perceive. There was a study about a year ago that used that radioactive glucose test and showed that almost all mRNA product recipients had hearts that were suddenly gobbling glucose. Normally the heart prefers fatty acids. It switches to glucose in times of injury or stress. Also, the immune system is not like a computer program. If you deploy it against your own tissue, don't be sure it'll stop so easily. The evidence that these harms are not rare but widespread and an existential threat to the health of the species is voluminous, but you can't see anything if your pineal gland is encrusted with fluoride and your brain is caked with bullsh_t.

Watch Marc Girardot on John Campbell from a week or 2 ago. He calls vaccinology "the worst industrial accident in history." I do not believe it was an accident. RFK Jr wrote about Simpsonwood in like 2003. 20+ years of fraud and purchased cowardice.

Read Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth. It's all a lie. A sinister fu__ing lie.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5999 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

people who believe Covid vaccines have harmed them are probably wrong about the cause of their problems.


I mean. sure. I get this line of thinking. but there is a point where it's no longer coincidental. like.. when theres hundreds of thousands if not millions of reports.

that's like saying "people die all the time. The fact that you died right after jumping off a bridge is just coincidence. Bridges are totally safe and effective"
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2252 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:40 pm to
Its just coincidenceocardia. Walk it off and get ya boostahs.
Posted by Mellow Drama
Flyover Country
Member since Aug 2020
3997 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Instead, experts emphasized evidence that was convenient to their recommendations and buried inconvenient facts. They exaggerated the risk of outdoor Covid transmission, the virus’s danger to children and the benefits of mask mandates, among other things. The goal may have been admirable — fighting a deadly virus — but the strategy backfired. Many people ended up confused, wondering what the truth was.


The ends don't justify the means you filthy lying "expert" SOBs.



Trump trusted the "experts." I'm wondering when the liberal mob will blame Trump for Operation Warp Speed. I guess when they're done with their kangaroo harlot hush money trial.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4442 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 6:14 pm to
I don't believe those vaccines saved anyone.

Covid cleared the body in 7 days. It was the cytokine storm or out of control immune responses that followed and killed them, usually in two to three weeks.

This storm damaged the lungs and caused the breathing issues. It can be caused by covid, the flu, certain cancer therapies, and they have been treating it forever.

But this time they didn't.

They sent people home if they were able to breath and told them to come back when they were worse. When they came back, their lungs were trashed and they were ventilated and often died.

Had they started them on steroids at the early stages (which had been used for years to calm immunity) and zinc and vitamin c they probably would have been fine.

But the protocol from the FEDs was do nothing and then poison them with remdesivir at $3200 a patient. Then finally, the respirator which 75% didn't survive.


Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1807 posts
Posted on 5/3/24 at 7:38 pm to
CDC is a for profit agency.
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