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re: Are we going to have to go through this again next year at DT?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:00 am to Kilonova Gold
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:00 am to Kilonova Gold
Two years ago we started two true freshman (Campbell & Jones) at both OT positions. We thought our O-line was going to be awful. Now they are both projected 1st rounders. Let's give Bo a chance to coach the guys we have at DT. McKinley, Johnson, and/or Breaux all have the potential to be the next great interior defensive lineman for LSU. The biggest difference to me this year from last is coaching. We all wanted Bo. Now we have him. Lets see what he can do with our guys.
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Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:06 am to Draco Malfoy
OMG!!! Yes you are!!!
You are pissed at BK and “want to hold him accountable for not getting DL out the portal” well you were pissed about Williams and Barrow who both demanded too money, MILLIONS!!!!
Blidi got paid big by Auburn!
West who knows but I guarantee after those deals he isn’t taking chump change to go to Indiana, the place your boy Blidi took have his NIL for 2024 from their collective and bailed before playing a down in 2024, real stand up guy there. Really want that on our team…..
Now the D2 guys who knows they could turn out to be the next Fiske or Verse(probably not but we don’t know).
You just want to hate on BK at every chance you get. Did he not send you a Xmas card or something? Frick you wife in high school? What’s the deal why so much hate for him?
You are pissed at BK and “want to hold him accountable for not getting DL out the portal” well you were pissed about Williams and Barrow who both demanded too money, MILLIONS!!!!
Blidi got paid big by Auburn!
West who knows but I guarantee after those deals he isn’t taking chump change to go to Indiana, the place your boy Blidi took have his NIL for 2024 from their collective and bailed before playing a down in 2024, real stand up guy there. Really want that on our team…..
Now the D2 guys who knows they could turn out to be the next Fiske or Verse(probably not but we don’t know).
You just want to hate on BK at every chance you get. Did he not send you a Xmas card or something? Frick you wife in high school? What’s the deal why so much hate for him?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:14 am to Stew2581
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You are pissed at BK and “want to hold him accountable for not getting DL out the portal
Yes, it’s unacceptable how mismanaged the DT position is for a major SEC program. He literally admitted they needed help there.
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Blidi got paid big by Auburn!
Incorrect. Billy has said he went for a fraction of what Barrow/Williams did
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You just want to hate on BK at every chance you get. Did he not send you a Xmas card or something? Frick you wife in high school? What’s the deal why so much hate for him?
I don’t hate CBK at all. He just said we would compete for a championship in year 3 and we need DTs in order to do so.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 8:50 am to Draco Malfoy
Dude, give it a break. You repeatedly say the same things trying to defend earlier posts. Move on.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:10 am to LSUTIGERS8181
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Until we start paying guys,
Some of yall are such mouth breathers. BK never said we won't pay guys. He just said that he's not getting into bidding wars for guys that only care about getting a bag.
An example would be a Man trying to find a wife. The man makes $100k a year which is plenty enough to give that woman a decent life. BUT if all she cares about is money then she's gonna find herself a guy making $200k or $500k and leave the $100k guy in the dust. Even if he marries him cuz he's the best she can do at the time, she will always be looking out for someone that can provide more than her current man. NOW if they both share the same values and goals in life and commit to each other based on more than money, the marriage has a better chance of lasting. This doesn't mean money doesn't matter at all. If he doesn't have a job at all, the values and goals won't be enough either. BK is trying to find that sweet spot of aligned goals and values and compensation.
Unfortunately for us, LSU has to play the NIL game this wat because we don't have the donor pool that other schools have. No we aren't dead broke but we won't be able to outbid the Texas's of the world. So our strategy has to be more nuanced than that.
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:13 am to Draco Malfoy
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Yes, it’s unacceptable how mismanaged the DT position is for a major SEC program. He literally admitted they needed help there.
How did he mismanage this? 3 DTs left in the draft and no others that were any good left. He has been trying to get some but as stated many times these guys want stupid money.
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Incorrect. Billy has said he went for a fraction of what Barrow/Williams did
Billy also said Williams and Barrow weren’t motivated by NIL until they came in and said we want more so there his cred on that.
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I don’t hate CBK at all. He just said we would compete for a championship in year 3 and we need DTs in order to do so.
And he still might. A strong ball control offense like I think they will have with probably the best OL and OL coach in the SEC. A strong run game controlling the clock can hide a weakness on defense a lot of times. Last year we were quick strike and the D spent a lot of time in the field and we all know about House and his stupidity. Baker and Davis will have these guys coached up. And we have DT’s they just are not elite but they don’t have to be to be serviceable. He will get a couple extras before the season for depth I’m sure but saying he whiffed like you have several times is wrong. He tried to get Barrow, Williams and Blidi but they chose money. Probably the best payday any of them will ever see as I don’t see any of those 3 are much more than very late day 3 picks or UDFA’s
Posted on 5/10/24 at 9:24 am to Stew2581
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How did he mismanage this? 3 DTs left in the draft and no others that were any good left. He has been trying to get some but as stated many times these guys want stupid money.
He let Wingo and Smith wait until the last minute to let the staff know they were leaving. We could have utilized the Winter transfer portal which had much better options. And before you say we didn’t have a defensive staff, we got other defensive players during this window.
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Billy also said Williams and Barrow weren’t motivated by NIL until they came in and said we want more so there his cred on that.
Doesn’t mean he’s wrong about Blidi….
I do agree that our offense will be elite again
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:04 am to Draco Malfoy
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Doesn’t mean he’s wrong about Blidi….
He has been wrong a lot
Posted on 5/10/24 at 10:07 am to Draco Malfoy
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He let Wingo and Smith wait until the last minute to let the staff know they were leaving. We could have utilized the Winter transfer portal which had much better options.
Smith and Wingo were leaving no matter who was coaching. Smith knew his potential was going to get him drafted higher than he deserved and Wingo knew age was going to start to hurt him and he even said after the bowl game he was gone
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:45 pm to Draco Malfoy
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He let Wingo and Smith wait until the last minute to let the staff know
He let them? Should he have shut the door on NFL draft pick caliber DTs in hopes to get NFL draft pick level DTs?
Posted on 5/10/24 at 12:58 pm to Draco Malfoy
quote:LSU likely offered a fraction as well. Maybe the kid went to the program that has a better history of putting DL into the NFL?
Incorrect. Billy has said he went for a fraction of what Barrow/Williams did
Posted on 5/10/24 at 1:05 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Maybe he should have told them to piss or get off the pot so we could have utilized the winter portal
Posted on 5/10/24 at 3:13 pm to Kilonova Gold
Seems like some of yall are forgetting about Reliford coming in from A&M. The dude is an absolute stud and could very well see playing time before McKinley. Hoping this guy helps big time on the DL this year.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:36 am to Draco Malfoy
Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?
Posted on 5/13/24 at 8:48 am to Kilonova Gold
The portal misses get a lot of pub, but high school DT recruiting is the biggest root cause. Look at what we have brought in the past 3 or 4 seasons. Without researching, we have brought in very few guys from the high school ranks for too many years in a row. Can't miss multiple years like that unless you knock it out of the portal park each year. We should be bringing in 3 or 4 HS guys every year. This has to change, but hasn't yet. Kelly says that is his intent, but has mostly missed so far.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 10:41 am to chadr07
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Seems like some of yall are forgetting about Reliford coming in from A&M. The dude is an absolute stud and could very well see playing time before McKinley. Hoping this guy helps big time on the DL this year.
He plays EDGE/DE, not DT
Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:42 pm to Carbonman
It won't be as dire, but we will go after top guys. It seems like a lot of teams need DL. Not as bad as LSU, but it's a big need. Louisiana has some dudes the next few years that we'll need to get committed.
Jahkeem Stewark - Edna Karr On3
Richard Anderson - Edna Karr - On3
Dylan Berymon - Ouchita - On3
Darryus McKinley - On3
Jahkeem Stewark - Edna Karr On3
Richard Anderson - Edna Karr - On3
Dylan Berymon - Ouchita - On3
Darryus McKinley - On3
Posted on 5/13/24 at 2:20 pm to Kilonova Gold
How can anyone in here predict this? I'm not sure why these questions are being asked. Nobody here can tell you for sure what's going to happen. At best we can speculate.
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:53 pm to Draco Malfoy
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I never said we needed to pay a mediocre DT millions of dollars. I did say that our staff had failed miserably at getting transfer DTs AFTER our head coach publicly said we needed them then our staff whiffing on every single one that visited.
Only problems with your hypothesis:
1. is the failing to get transfer DTs was a result of mediocre DTs wanting millions (Barrow and Williams). Hard to find fault when you agree that it is absurd to overpay for marginal talent.
2. As to Blidi, why overpay for someone who has Jacobian Guillory stats while playing more snaps than Guillory and while playing in the BIG10.
ETA: Question for you: Would you laugh at Auburn if they gave Guillory a $450k NIL deal to secure his services out of the portal?
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3. West only being available for fall camp, should he actually graduate in August. There is no guaranty that West will be eligible for next year, until he graduates. There is an underlying academic eligibility problem there and not graduating will end his college career. Not worth the risk.
Therefore, the search goes on, patience grasshopper.
This post was edited on 5/13/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:59 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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He let them? Should he have shut the door on NFL draft pick caliber DTs in hopes to get NFL draft pick level DTs?
The problem with people who point to Smith and Wingo is that lsu needed dts even if they stayed.
So why didn't they grab a couple guys in the winter portal? They didn't even try. That was a miscalculation.
Better players were cheaper as a result of quantity
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