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re: Okay. Trump concealed payments to Stormy...
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:33 pm to Dirk Dawgler
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:33 pm to Dirk Dawgler
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if he gets convicted of a misdemeanor
Felony*
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:33 pm to Jax-Tiger
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I think he probably did.
Really!!!! You think he probably did? He sued her for breaking the NDA. That part is not in question. Morons on the left are hoping NDAs have now become illegal.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:34 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Signature on what?
They have it on tape / documented with Trump's own signature.
If you think it didn't happen, you're ignorant or lying.
It is legal to suppress this info dumbfrick
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Oh then certainly the DOJ is prosecuting? right? fricking chump
Felony*
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:39 pm to Jax-Tiger
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Now you know why law enforcement is not pursuing the Jeffrey Epstein client list for crimes against children. That is a can of worms that a lot of very powerful people want to keep the lid screwed on tight...
And President Ankle-pants Clinton was a frequent flier on the Lolita Express.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:41 pm to ninthward
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Signature on what?
The checks he used to reimburse Cohen, which were falsified as to purpose in his business records (and used to promote a particular candidate in an election, hence the step-up to felony).
All 11 of them.
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It is legal to suppress this info dumbfrick
New York State and its criminal statutes would disagree with you, and in this instance (as in many others) your feelings are trumped by facts.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:45 pm to BamaAtl
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The checks he used to reimburse Cohen, which were falsified as to purpose in his business records (and used to promote a particular candidate in an election, hence the step-up to felony).
It is legal to reimburse Cohen are you high? It is also legal to sign an NDA. Also one fact you never mention all this was entered into record AFTER THE ELECTION
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:48 pm to CreoleTigerEsq
And everyone not lost in a sea of empty words knows that this case is nothing but corrupt lawfare to deny Trump is constitutional and civil rights under the color of law. Now that's a felony.
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CIVIL RIGHTS CONSPIRACY
18 U.S.C. § 241
Conspiracy Against Rights
Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.
Unlike most conspiracy statutes, §241 does not require, as an element, the commission of an overt act.
The offense is always a felony, even if the underlying conduct would not, on its own, establish a felony violation of another criminal civil rights statute. It is punishable by up to ten years imprisonment unless the government proves an aggravating factor (such as that the offense involved kidnapping aggravated sexual abuse, or resulted in death) in which case it may be punished by up to life imprisonment and, if death results, may be eligible for the death penalty.
Section 241 is used in Law Enforcement Misconduct and Hate Crime Prosecutions. It was historically used, before conspiracy-specific trafficking statutes were adopted, in Human Trafficking prosecutions.
MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT & OTHER GOVERNMENT ACTORS
18 U.S.C. § 242
Deprivation of Rights Under Color of Law
This provision makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. It is not necessary that the offense be motivated by racial bias or by any other animus.
Defendants act under color of law when they wield power vested by a government entity. Those prosecuted under the statute typically include police officers, sheriff’s deputies, and prison guards. However other government actors, such as judges, district attorneys, other public officials, and public school employees can also act under color of law and can be prosecuted under this statute.
Section 242 does not criminalize any particular type of abusive conduct. Instead, it incorporates by reference rights defined by the Constitution, federal statutes, and interpretive case law. Cases charged by federal prosecutors most often involve physical or sexual assaults. The Department has also prosecuted public officials for thefts, false arrests, evidence-planting, and failing to protect someone in custody from constitutional violations committed by others.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:48 pm to BamaAtl
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New York State and its criminal statutes would disagree with you, and in this instance (as in many others) your feelings are trumped by facts.
When you get a break from cleaning bedpans maybe you can post the NY criminal statutes that address federal elections. TIA
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:48 pm to ninthward
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It is legal to reimburse Cohen are you high? It is also legal to sign an NDA.
It's not legal to falsify that reimbursement as payment for 'legal expenses', per NYS law.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:50 pm to BamaAtl
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The checks he used to reimburse Cohen, which were falsified as to purpose in his business records (and used to promote a particular candidate in an election, hence the step-up to felony).
They would have to prove intent and they failed to do so and in fact never have during the trial. Their only hope is a jury that hates Trump as much as you but it would be overturned.
I don’t even think this jury will be able to find him guilty. Cohen has already blew up his credibility showing and admitting extreme animas and his need to profit off of Trump being convicted. Your wishcasting at this time for a conviction that stands.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:53 pm to BamaAtl
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It's not legal to falsify that reimbursement as payment for 'legal expenses', per NYS law.
quote:but yea you and Bragg are smarter than this guy...
Dershowitz said he cannot see any crime that the former president allegedly committed, and that testimony from Cohen could not be taken seriously.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 4:54 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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don’t even think this jury will be able to find him guilty.
The Sunday .morning shows had a lot of speculation that they had lost the jury with the Stormy shitshow. Apparently there was a lot of negative body language from jurors.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:00 pm to BamaAtl
quote:You struggle enough fielding medical questions. Don't embarrass yourself guessing about other topics.
But falsifying your business records to hide the reimbursement of that payment, that's a crime.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:02 pm to teke184
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Apparently EVERYTHING Cohen billed got thrown under “legal services” by the foundation’s accounting software. And it is reasonable to consider any activity by a lawyer on behalf of a client to be “legal services”.
Clinton campaign put payment for Steele dossier as “legal services”, the purpose to hide they paid for it and influence election. By Bragg standards, that’s falsifying business records and should bring charges.
Unless they have another ‘crime”, that hasn’t been disclosed, this is nothing but theatrics.
This post was edited on 5/14/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:34 pm to BamaAtl
quote:BamaAtl tries his hand at a legal argument ....
The checks he used to reimburse Cohen, which were falsified as to purpose in his business records (and used to promote a particular candidate in an election, hence the step-up to felony).
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:34 pm to ronricks
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Stormy already broke the NDA.
...and swallowed the DNA.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:56 pm to Jax-Tiger
Concealed to who?
The misdemeanor hasn't even been close to proven much less the crime in which it is alleged to have facilitated.
The misdemeanor hasn't even been close to proven much less the crime in which it is alleged to have facilitated.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:57 pm to BamaAtl
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It's not legal to falsify that reimbursement as payment for 'legal expenses', per NYS law.
Also in the recording, Trump point blanked asked Cohen to pay by check and Cohen said “I have this.”
Cohen is the one who cooked the books and invoices to get repaid. Cohen is the one who should be on trial and not Trump.
Posted on 5/14/24 at 5:57 pm to BamaAtl
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The checks he used to reimburse Cohen, which were falsified as to purpose in his business records
Allegation made without evidence you stupid slag.
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