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re: Carrier Deal

Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263490 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:55 pm to
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tax break?


I'm 100% for tax breaks.
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
887 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:56 pm to
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You remind me of the idiots that lost a car plant in my city about 25 years ago.

They wanted 20 years of no taxes on the land and plant, dumb asses voted no, plant goes to another state 3500 employees at average 35 bucks an hour lost because you know it isn't fair.


If your city had the lowest property taxes in the state, then do you believe that some or most of those jobs would have been replaced by other companies moving in? BTW good for the people in your town for standing on principle. My town let on of the largest companies in the state rape them with tax incentives while me and my fellow small business owners pay some of the highest property taxes in the state.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73565 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:57 pm to
A simple link to your assertion that they reneged, you claimed it back it with facts.

Posted by DBest
ARIZONA
Member since Jan 2013
169 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:58 pm to
I would assume so. However, it matters not 10 years from now when the incentives run dry. The remaining jobs will be moved. I dont agree with many things Obama has said in the past but I do agree with him that these jobs can not ultimately be saved.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73565 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:58 pm to
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BTW good for the people in your town for standing on principle.
Principle is a depressed economy doesn't expand a cities base.

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My town let on of the largest companies in the state rape them with tax incentives while me and my fellow small business owners pay some of the highest property taxes in the state.
Rape
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:00 pm to
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So yo think every time a major corporation threatens to ship jobs overseas they should get a $7 million tax break?



We should ALWAYS assume businesses will go overseas, and create an environment where that doesn't happen. NOT by punisging those that do, but by creating a business friendly environment. We should not only be cutting all corporate tax, but regulation bullshite as well. We should be making an environment that steals businesses from overseas.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39788 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:04 pm to
You are yammering about local property taxes as American businesses are burdened by the third highest corporate tax rates in the world. Noone is particularly worried about factories moving from Texas to Alabama at the moment. We are worried about Monterrey and Tianjin.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4471 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:04 pm to
He should have negotiated a deal that kept more than 800 of 2100 jobs in the USA. Period. If he tried and failed then he should have gone to the Carrier workers and told them the truth. He tried and he saved some jobs but most will still be unemployed.

To go to the Carrier workers and celebrate this deal as s victory when 60% of workers' jobs are still going to Mexico is disgusting.
Posted by westerntigerfan
Member since Oct 2012
887 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:05 pm to
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Why? Different cities have different advantages and disadvantages to companies.

I oppose government using tax incentives to prop up one company at the expense of other, usually smaller, companies.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39788 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:06 pm to
Saving some of the jobs, but not all is disgusting?

You must be nauseated by Obama.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73565 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:06 pm to
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He should have negotiated a deal that kept more than 800 of 2100 jobs in the USA.
Ah so you don' really have any ideas.

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To go to the Carrier workers and celebrate this deal as s victory when 60% of workers' jobs are still going to Mexico is disgusting.
Yeah frick the deal that he got, better to send them all out the door.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30220 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:10 pm to
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I oppose government using tax incentives to prop up one company at the expense of other, usually smaller, companies.


So you don't see any scenario where small comapanies would benefit from a large company being in the area? Please tell me how it would hurt a manufacturer to have a larger manufacturer come in close by. Be specific.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35707 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:10 pm to
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We should not only be cutting all corporate tax, but regulation bullshite as well. We should be making an environment that steals businesses from overseas.
How do you expect the government to enable mega corporations to further consolidate their power if we level the playing field?

Why do you hate America so much?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73565 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:10 pm to
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I oppose government using tax incentives to prop up one company at the expense of other
Jesus a city luring new business into it's tax base is for the benefit of the city. Which is the people in the city.
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:11 pm to
You as a consumer are the ones paying taxes. No matter how you cut it, it's all passed down. It's economics. Jesus, the public education now sucks
Posted by DBest
ARIZONA
Member since Jan 2013
169 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:11 pm to
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A simple link to your assertion that they reneged, you claimed it back it with facts


Well you claimed everybody that disagreed was an idiot so I figured with a statement like that you should already know the facts.

LINK

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73565 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:12 pm to
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everybody
Nope just the guy that called me a dumb arse, but as sharp as you are I thought you would have known that.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55670 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:13 pm to
I'm sure he means manufacturers that also sell retail. Like a trailer fab shop or even a concrete plant.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73565 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:15 pm to
Pence says the company discussed its frustration with a "rising tide of red tape coming out of Washington D.C." and that more than 50 new rules affecting the heating and air conditioning industry have been created over the last two years.

So the environment turned for the worse so they gave the dough back, what's the problem?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30220 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 11:16 pm to
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I'm sure he means manufacturers that also sell retail. Like a trailer fab shop or even a concrete plant.


I don't think they are getting much tax incentive to move their business but I dunno.
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