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re: Apparently Bush 43 is NeoConning pretty hard today in New York

Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:52 am to
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:52 am to
Right, and Brexit was sold as a lie and is going to do nothing to help Britain. Capital is going to flow out of London and into places like Frankfurt. It's just something that idiots like Farage wanted.

Getting out of the Iran deal would be one huge thing that Europe would hate. Cozying up to Russia, which thankfully he can't do anymore since it was so obvious, would be another.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
90864 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:53 am to
I don't think the GOPe (Uniparty-R) realizes how transparent this is - W and McCain are harsher critics of Trump than they were of either Clinton or Obama.

Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:58 am to
Pretty weak response. We don't even know the terms of Brexit yet, but somehow you already know those unknown terms will fail.

Assuming hard Brexit, London will still be a powerhouse and would have more to gain with a stronger US-UK tie than it would subsidizing the European PIIGS with their failed social welfare experiments.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 11:59 am
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:06 pm to
The GOPe is just mad they are losing contributors. Trump is doing most everything they want.

Trump, policy wise, is a neocon.
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
780 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Right, and Brexit was sold as a lie and is going to do nothing to help Britain. Capital is going to flow out of London and into places like Frankfurt. It's just something that idiots like Farage wanted.


You seem confident in the direction of the Eurozone. Spain, Catalonia, stagnant growth in Italy, Greece, and France are all major challenges they face. It is far to early to say what Britain will get trade wise once agreements for exit are made. They could end up like Norway for all we know.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:10 pm to
What would a stronger US-UK tie look like? It's already strong.

Why would a multinational who wants access to the European market put its headquarters into the UK instead of Germany now? It will be much simpler having it in an EU country.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:51 pm to
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You seem confident in the direction of the Eurozone. Spain, Catalonia, stagnant growth in Italy, Greece, and France are all major challenges they face. It is far to early to say what Britain will get trade wise once agreements for exit are made. They could end up like Norway for all we know.


Norway abides by EU rules like free movement of workers.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69938 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 1:53 pm to
There is zero evidence so far that the U.K. Economy is being harmed by brexit
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
33121 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:03 pm to
Thanks for not doing shite about North Korea’s development of nuclear weapons, W. Maybe if Trump didn’t have to clean up after you he’d have more time for virtue signaling.
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
780 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:07 pm to
You missed the point I was making about Norway have a separate relationship. Britain will be negotiating their own departure and future relationship just as the Norwegians negotiated separate rules.

We have no idea what the final result will be, yet you predict everyone will relocate from London to Frankfurt.

To flip the question, of you say companies will relocate away from the UK to the EU for market access couldn’t you also say that companies will consider the UK because they won’t have to abide by EU manufacturing restrictions?

As for British ties to the US, the relationship certainly can grow economically as they rid themselves of EU/US trade agreements. Brexit isn’t nearly as one sided as you make it out to be, and the UK will still maintain power across DIME domains.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
16300 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:07 pm to
Bush the most hated Prez!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113698 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:22 pm to
I didn't vote for Bush. I voted for Harry Browne, Libertarian Party.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7014 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:27 pm to
As disgustingly stupid as Trump is, so far he's just bluster. He hasn't actually been able to do most of the really stupid shite he really wants to. Bush drug us into a terrible war that helped create ISIS.

On a personal level, I like Bush 1000 times better. He may be misinformed but I don't think he's evil like Trump. From a Presidential standpoint, he was worse because Trump is too incompetent to get anyone agree to his terrible ideas (not counting the brainwashed rednecks who gobble up everything he says.)
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:27 pm to
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Oooo so he lost the popular vote. Too bad that's not the way elections here are decided for President. Guess who we elected? Trump.

Please seek help. It's been 11 months and you still don't know "What Happened."




ETA: It's what gave us W.
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49549 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:28 pm to
He didn't make the rules and he may not like the rules. However, he played by the rules and bitch slapped y'all.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
26273 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:33 pm to
Bush is a globalist just like his daddy.

Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35890 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Restoring national pride is something that's been sorely needed
How exactly do you explain away his childish tactics which do nothing but further divide us?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
128374 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:45 pm to
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Norway abides by EU rules like free movement of workers.
Close but not quite.

The freedom of movement to Norway only includes EU citizens, not foreign nationals from outside the EU who happen to be traveling through a EU country. And the EU citizens only have freedom of movement for work purposes.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
33121 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:46 pm to
Trump’s position might very well still be that the electoral college sucks. He didn’t make the rules. If Nick Saban says that the 4 team playoff is a disaster for college football and then wins the 4 team playoff does that mean that his championship is less legitimate?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 10/19/17 at 2:54 pm to
He lowered the boom big time
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