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re: Seahawks article on Adams quoting Aranda

Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:24 pm to
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18419 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:24 pm to
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Its the difference between lsu and the rest. NFLSU is nice but it doesn’t win you championships consistently because its a constant rebuild.


Which is why I’m sick of seeing it under every TD front page article about any time a former LSU player does something in the NFL.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11824 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Aranda
Captain didn't like him.

He was too evolved mentally for simpleton O.

It's all playing out for all to see currently.

Look around. LSU can't hire anybody. No backup plan. Panic scramble to find somebody.

Nobody wants to step into this big pile of rotten shrimp heads (Defense) because they know now what and who Capt. Eddie is all about. (He makes one courtesy call to Sean Payton and Nielsen is in place and starting to rebuild the Defense)

Powers, Alums, TAF's and Normal fans starting to get past the point of no return.......

As usual, all of the Luzianner O Sycophants, Program Cheerleaders and Lovers of Mediocrity are completely blind to what's going on........

Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
18419 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 5:26 pm to
Pretty solid melt.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
25756 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

Captain didn't like him.

He was too evolved mentally for simpleton O.

It's all playing out for all to see currently.

Look around. LSU can't hire anybody. No backup plan. Panic scramble to find somebody.

Nobody wants to step into this big pile of rotten shrimp heads (Defense) because they know now what and who Capt. Eddie is all about. (He makes one courtesy call to Sean Payton and Nielsen is in place and starting to rebuild the Defense)

Powers, Alums, TAF's and Normal fans starting to get past the point of no return.......

As usual, all of the Luzianner O Sycophants, Program Cheerleaders and Lovers of Mediocrity are completely blind to what's going on........


Come on man get a grip! This was a discussion on the kids and their communication skills. All the man was trying to say was, take a cue from Aranda and sit with Adams to teach him the defense ans his assignments. It also pointed out that Adams has been in a system that likely was more controlling and Carroll wants him to use his instincts and be more free to decide.
Posted by TigerDM
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
1652 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:21 pm to
I really don't agree the the "me and not we" is the actual problem with defensive stars. Problem is that in high school they are so much better than everyone else, they just go after the ball on most plays and don't truly play a position. We have had several players, Steven on this years team and Beckwith a few years ago, that struggled their first couple of years in playing a structured defense and get them out of going for the ball.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
71349 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:41 pm to
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I really don't agree the the "me and not we" is the actual problem with defensive stars. Problem is that in high school they are so much better than everyone else, they just go after the ball on most plays and don't truly play a position.


Defense is so much about reaction that athleticism is a double edged sword. It is absolutely necessary but at lower levels can mask some mental deficiencies

But I’ll tell you what: the smartest guy in the room isn’t going to win games if he can’t run a guy down.

That’s how you end up coaching and not playing.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18555 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 7:46 pm to
Jamal is a type and thinks he knows it all. Good player but definitely a hot dog. And I like JA.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59368 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 8:04 pm to
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t’s just how kids think nowadays. It’s a “me not we” culture.


Nothing better than keyboard jockeys calling kids, many of whom grew up in poverty that they are “selfish” for getting paid
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:25 pm to
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Its the difference between lsu and the rest. NFLSU is nice but it doesn’t win you championships consistently because its a constant rebuild.

Bama is the only team with more Natty's this century. WE win Nattys more consistently than all but Bama. Who the foooke do you think we should be emulating so it wouldn't be a "constant rebuild"? Kids nowadays ACT like Kids nowadays!
You Fooking maroon.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 9:30 pm
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8530 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:36 pm to
And I think that’s why half the reason Bama is who they are. They stress the process. We all make fun of the saying, but Saban can get multiple first round players to stay for their senior years and forgo the draft.
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 9:36 pm to
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If you go to an SEC school most likely you’re going to the NFL.

Yeah...show some stats to back up your statement please. Like what % of SEC players go on to the NFL. 90%? 70? 10%? What number does "most likely" translate to?
Posted by charlestonchief
Member since Sep 2006
601 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:18 pm to
The SEC represents about 20% of the players in the NFL, ~350 of the 1696 players
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
11240 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

“So here’s the issue with LSU. And again, maybe I shouldn’t be saying this. I don’t, I gotta think of a better way to say it. Okay, I think some of the kids we get: academic prowess, football knowledge, football IQ. There’s much to be, I think, uh, wanted in those areas.


Interesting article. Dave Aranda pretty much tell you we recruit stupid players
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
6852 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

Captain didn't like him. He was too evolved mentally for simpleton O. It's all playing out for all to see currently. Look around. LSU can't hire anybody. No backup plan. Panic scramble to find somebody. Nobody wants to step into this big pile of rotten shrimp heads (Defense) because they know now what and who Capt. Eddie is all about. (He makes one courtesy call to Sean Payton and Nielsen is in place and starting to rebuild the Defense) Powers, Alums, TAF's and Normal fans starting to get past the point of no return....... As usual, all of the Luzianner O Sycophants, Program Cheerleaders and Lovers of Mediocrity are completely blind to what's going on........


What a fair and objective post. Not hysterical at all. It’s possible to give him credit for the good he’s done while also being critical when it is deserving but you sound like someone who is irrational regardless of the situation.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
29190 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 10:48 pm to
Interesting read.


Dave knew he had to teach some kids one on one. The swag is what made and makes jamal adams a great player.
That extra year makes a huge difference.

Just think if this year's team had queen, phillips, saadiq, and k'lavon. Like aranda said, right when the players are starting to get the concept, they leave.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30779 posts
Posted on 1/24/21 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

It’s just how kids think nowadays. It’s a “me not we” culture.


Yes, which is why the dinosaur methods of fear based coaching like Pelini used don't work. You have to communicate with these kids in a way that they accept.
This post was edited on 1/24/21 at 11:08 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
25756 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:11 am to
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Yes, which is why the dinosaur methods of fear based coaching like Pelini used don't work.

If anything I saw O chewing arse ans not Pelini. I wanted him fired but the defense did show signs of life at times. A lot of what I saw was a drop off in LB play as much as db. From my knowledge they had the same db coaches in Raymond and Bausch. People really love Raymond on here but I question his coaching.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36931 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:23 am to
What's the quote?
Posted by Jack Crevalle
USVI
Member since Aug 2018
6931 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 12:30 am to
quote:

From my knowledge

quote:

Bausch


Posted by Silvermoon_WhereRU
Member since Jun 2016
2399 posts
Posted on 1/25/21 at 1:26 am to
I’d rather recruit elite athletes and 5stars and employ coaches that find a way to adapt their system to put them in places to succeed than have a bunch of high IQ football players that are slow and suck.

I’ll take a Jamal Adams every year. Just go get a coach that knows how to teach their system when the player is relying mostly on instincts.
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