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Is it possible to go too low and slow?

Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:52 am
Posted by Yeahbuddy35
Swagtown USA
Member since Nov 2021
153 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:52 am
For a brisket what is the temp yall normally start at? I was thinking of starting one out at 180 or so, so it absorbes a ton of smoke flavor, then remp it up towards the end to get to the final 205. Has anyone ever tried this and is it worth the extra cook time?
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3108 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 11:59 am to
You must have a pellet grill/smoker. I used to start most things on my RecTeq at 180 for a few hours before turning it up to 200+. Now that I've added a Smokai to the rig, there is more than enough smoke at any tmep. I'd recommend looking into one of those if you need more smoke.

As to your question, here is a thread on the subject from the SmokingMeats forum.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:09 pm to
Yes, it is possible, but not with good results. There is a health issue. If the meat stays within a certain range (I forget the actual range) for too long, it can make you sick. I am 955 certain this happened to me once a few years ago.
Posted by Gris Gris
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Member since Feb 2008
47426 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:21 pm to
Here's a recent similar thread.

LINK
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
12088 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:54 pm to
The trick of a brisket is getting the fatty point done at the same time as the leaner flat. I have found that 250F in my Backwoods is a good temp. They hardly ever come out perfect, but enjoyable.
Posted by Pledge
Professional Baw
Member since Sep 2015
1120 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 12:55 pm to
I think smoking anything below 225° for any amount of time on purpose seems like a waste of time. I even think smoking at 225° is a waste of time. You'd rarely be able to tell the difference between beef smoked at 225 vs 250
Posted by geauxfortwo
Livin the dream
Member since Jan 2018
1910 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Yes, it is possible, but not with good results. There is a health issue. If the meat stays within a certain range (I forget the actual range) for too long, it can make you sick.


Gotta be over 140 internal temp within 4 hours
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21546 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Gotta be over 140 internal temp within 4 hours


That's it! I was trying to look it up.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
81699 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

I think smoking anything below 225° for any amount of time on purpose seems like a waste of time. I even think smoking at 225° is a waste of time.
Man do I ever disagree with this.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:14 pm to
it's possible. Just remember heat will always be taking moisture

That's why fatty meats do well in long smokes and cooks are always adding moisture elements to the cook either with injections, mops, water pans, etc.
Posted by Brisketeer
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
1437 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

get to the final 205


Don't wait to get to that temp. In most cases, you will overcook the brisket. Start probing for doneness at 195ish.

I typically start my briskets at 225 (on the pellet grill) and cook overnight at that temp to get good smoke. I raise the temp to 250 for a few hours and then 275 until done.
Posted by dtett
Jiggacity
Member since Oct 2018
516 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 2:43 pm to
Water pans are for maintaining temperatures as it uses the water as a heat sink. Humidity is added via evaporation but I've found that it's not enough to make a difference in moisture content.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105432 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:07 pm to
Water pan does several things in a smoker. Temperature control, moisture, heat diffuser, can even help with flavor through the steam and condensation on the meat attracting smoke to that area.


It helps more than you suggest.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
103135 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

too low and slow


Impossible. I've done 72 hour cooks before.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16502 posts
Posted on 2/21/24 at 9:56 pm to
I guess to each his own.

A more conventional brisket schedule would be the first 3-4 hours at 225F to let the bark form. Then the cook can be accelerated to say 275F.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
2517 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 10:33 am to
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Man do I ever disagree with this.


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