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re: Serious Eats Tackles "What Makes Gumbo Gumbo?"

Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:02 pm to
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I could eat it everyday and be perfectly happy.

Amen
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:03 pm to
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Yes. Roux, file, and okra are all thickeners. You could have gumbo with any of the three without the other two


I'm sorry, but you can't have gumbo without a roux, IMO. You can have a gumbo without file or okra, but not without a roux.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:07 pm to
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While I like seafood gumbo (my grandmother makes it from scratch for X-mas eve every year), chicken and sausage is always my go to comfort food. I could eat it everyday and be perfectly happy.



I grew up on chicken and sausage gumbo and make it rather often. But i've grown to love my seafood gumbo more and will make some Sunday just in time for the cool front. However, my best gumbo is made around Christmas. Smoked duck, andouille, and oyster gumbo.

I've made Gumbo Z'Herbes 2 or 3 times. It was pretty good, but i also add meat to it. Last time i made it, i swore it off, just do to cleaning all those damn greens and having to cook all of that shite down, then having to puree' it. The immersion blender helped, but it became to big of a pain in the arse.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:08 pm to
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I'm sorry, but you can't have gumbo without a roux, IMO. You can have a gumbo without file or okra, but not without a roux.


I don't like okra in a gumbo and only like file in a seafood gumbo.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15757 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:10 pm to
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I grew up on chicken and sausage gumbo and make it rather often. But i've grown to love my seafood gumbo more and will make some Sunday just in time for the cool front. However, my best gumbo is made around Christmas. Smoked duck, andouille, and oyster gumbo.

I've made Gumbo Z'Herbes 2 or 3 times. It was pretty good, but i also add meat to it. Last time i made it, i swore it off, just do to cleaning all those damn greens and having to cook all of that shite down, then having to puree' it. The immersion blender helped, but it became to big of a pain in the arse.


My favorite gumbo is after right after the new year. As soon as the first deer sausage comes in, I make a duck, rabbit and deer sausage gumbo.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61276 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:14 pm to
Agree. A dark and spicy chicken and sausage/andouille is by far my favorite.
I rarely ever love a thin light batch
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:21 pm to
FOUR HOURS for oven roux?

they're smoking crack.

i can get a dark roux inside of 10 minutes in the microwave using gris gris technique.

always turns out perfect. always.

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Add remaining 1 cup (235ml) oil to Dutch oven along with flour, stirring to form a paste. Lower heat to medium-low and cook, stirring and scraping frequently, until roux is a chestnut or chocolate-brown color but not scorched, about 1 hour.

Alternatively, you can combine the flour and 1 cup oil in a separate ovenproof vessel and cook, uncovered, in a 350°F (180°C) oven, stirring occasionally, until roux is chestnut or chocolate-brown, about 4 hours
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 3:23 pm
Posted by jvargas
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:27 pm to
I think this guy is colorblind.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:33 pm to
I too like to put the aromatics into the roux, onions first, cooking until they're colored a bit, then adding the rest.

RE: rouxless gumbos, my grandmere would make one from time to time....she used double the usual amount of onions, and smothered the onions down into almost a paste. That onion stuff acted as the thickening agent.

Generally speaking, I prefer thinner, soupier "homestyle" gumbos to the overly reduced, concentrated stock NOLA restaurant style gumbos.

Hell yes, you can have a gumbo w/o file or okra. And file should be added to your bowl, not to the entire pot. Sprinkle it over your rice, then ladle on the gumbo. Too much in the pot makes the texture weird, and it doesn't improve with reheating.

Article wasn't too bad, considering.

Cool front next week! Time to make some gumbo. Think I'm gonna make chicken/andouille/oyster.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:41 pm to
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i can get a dark roux inside of 10 minutes in the microwave using gris gris technique.


I do mine on the stove in 10 minutes.

Their idea of dark the color of the roux when I make Mac and cheese.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:55 pm to
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chicken/andouille/oyster.


how do you add the oyster and how much?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 3:58 pm to
Add just enough oysters for the amount you're serving at that time. You'll only cook them 10 minutes or so.

Don't add too much because they won't reheat that well.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91445 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:04 pm to


sounds perfect. looking for something different to do but i dont want a full-on seafood gumbo because i love the chicken & andouille too much.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:06 pm to
On that same line of thinking, I think I might do that smoke duck, andouille, and oyster AC mentioned.

The best thing I've ever done for my gumbo though is using bacon grease for my roux. I don't think I'll ever not do that again.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91445 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:33 pm to
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The best thing I've ever done for my gumbo though is using bacon grease for my roux. I don't think I'll ever not do that again.


i bought some duck fat from a butcher here a couple times and that was amazing for roux

it was like $2/cup so it didnt break the bank either.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14108 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:38 pm to
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I'm sorry, but you can't have gumbo without a roux, IMO. You can have a gumbo without file or okra, but not without a roux.
I always have roux in my gumbo. I can just see that the other styles are also authentic.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:48 pm to
All's I know is the high on Monday is going to be 75 and that's gumbo weather!
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 4:50 pm to
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i can get a dark roux inside of 10 minutes in the microwave using gris gris technique.


I’ve never made roux in the microwave. I make it in large quantities in the oven.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 4:51 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
76268 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:03 pm to
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All's I know is the high on Monday is going to be 75 and that's gumbo weather!






Have been known to just turn the AC down really low and stay inside to justify a July gumbo.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171955 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 5:07 pm to
It's always gumbo weather.

Just sometimes it's extra gumbo-y outside.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 5:07 pm
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