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Instagramer trying to be a scratch golfer in one year.

Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:00 pm
Came across this guy @zerotoscratch who is on a mission to go from never having played golf to a scratch golfer in one year.

He started April 1, today was his first round after a week of practice and 2 sessions with a coach. Guy is out of Dallas, played Bridlewood today.

Instagram link to profile

No idea how legit this is. Couple of claims seem fishy (first session with coach and hit a 250yd drive and he birdied his third hole of his career; a par 3) but will be interesting to see how the guy does.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:14 pm to
Assuming he has no job and can dedicate all his time to practice I could see high single digits.


Scratch is a different ball game.

ETA: I just watched a video of him on the range. He might want to focus on breaking 90.
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 6:17 pm
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4784 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:25 pm to
Zero chance. Maybe 8 or 9 with tons of practice, but sub 5 is a grind


Just looked at his swing. Less than zero, he's marginally athletic
This post was edited on 4/8/25 at 6:27 pm
Posted by SouthlakeTiger
Southlake, Texas
Member since Mar 2005
6325 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 6:35 pm to
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Assuming he has no job and can dedicate all his time to practice I could see high single digits.


I have athleticism and all the time in the world and will never come close to being a scratch golfer.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17397 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:31 pm to
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sub 5 is a grind


Truth. You need a ton of talent or more than one year of playing to get under 5.

Maybe there is somebody out there who can understand the physics of golf relatively quickly, but i have never met a person like that. It takes so much trial and error. Then, feel is not real.

And i have never seen anyone with a linear path of progession. There will be roadblocks.
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
37371 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 7:31 pm to
Check out Jerome Rufin. He has been doing this for a while. Gets instruction from the best coaches in the world.
I’m not a big fan of Jerome but I really enjoy watching the instructors teach. The Dana Dahlquist lessons are money


YouTube
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2195 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:14 pm to
There is the "Chasing Scratch" series that is similar to this. Also somewhat similar to Tom Coynes book about trying to play pro golf.

Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7106 posts
Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:46 pm to
This guy sucks and has no chance, but scratch is basically what, averaging a 74-76 with the new handicap system?

There are a lot of “scratch golfers” out there that seemingly never break par and play 6300 yard courses, at elevation.

So I do believe it would be possible for the right person to go from Zero to fake new school scratch in a year. But in reality, they would probably be an 8-9 capper on a real course.

Posted by GoldenD
Katy
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/8/25 at 10:59 pm to
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There are a lot of “scratch golfers” out there that seemingly never break par and play 6300 yard courses, at elevation.


That's not how handicaps or course ratings work. To be "scratch", essentially 8/20 rounds need to be at par or 1-3 over on a tough course and/or back tees. Can't be faked by shooting par at a short course due to the rating system taking that into account.
Posted by makersmark1
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:05 am to
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That's not how handicaps or course ratings work. To be "scratch", essentially 8/20 rounds need to be at par or 1-3 over on a tough course and/or back tees.


You are right.

Handicap is “potential.”
It is the good side of your golf.

So IF you are a “10” you won’t shoot an average of “82” every time you play.
You will meet or beat your index about 1 in 4 rounds.

Golf is hard. Beating your handicap is real hard.
This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 4:19 am
Posted by The Pickwick
Member since Jan 2025
133 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:08 am to
Would think that is very doable to achieve if you put in the time. Not that hard to be a scratch if you go about it the correct way. Unfortunately the vast majority of people, who want to be good, don’t put the time in or work on the incorrect things.
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 6:19 am
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14222 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 6:36 am to
Wasn’t Johnny Manziel on a self proclaimed PGA Tour track a while back? What happened there?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103849 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 7:40 am to
I think for people that are great natural athletes it’s attainable to get to scratch quickly if they dedicate all their time to it. Patrick Peterson became a 6 handicap from never playing before in 1 year, and that was with being a full time pro football player

I think any college baseball, tennis, or football skil player could get it done.

For most they ain’t going to get to scratch in a year
This post was edited on 4/9/25 at 7:44 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:48 am to
quote:

No idea how legit this is. Couple of claims seem fishy (first session with coach and hit a 250yd drive and he birdied his third hole of his career; a par 3)


So not legit
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 4/9/25 at 11:56 am to
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So not legit


Not passing too much judgement yet. Maybe his coach told him he hit it 250 to get the confidence up.

He allegedly videos each shot so he did post all three shots of the par 3 par.

First round total was 120 (63/57) could only double par. Surprised the back 9 was better than the front after that many shots.
Posted by The Johnny Lawrence
Member since Sep 2016
2195 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 7:54 am to
I played baseball. Getting to single digits wasn't hard. Getting to scratch is another level. You just can't get enough rounds under your belt in a year.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103849 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:23 am to
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I played baseball. Getting to single digits wasn't hard. Getting to scratch is another level. You just can't get enough rounds under your belt in a year.
Imagine getting to practice 8 hours ever single day with a coach though

I think if good natural athletes got a year to do that they would be averaging in the mid 70s for normal golf courses

That’s the thing. A scratch golfer would shoot around +12 on a 4 round tournament at a normal country club setup. So they still are losing by about 30 strokes to the pros

Being scratch is an awesome achievement but it doesn’t really mean shite in the “real” golf world of money. It’s the equivalent to a 4.5 tennis player. You are better than almost everyone around you, you look legit, but you are so far away from money golf or tennis it’s not even close
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4784 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 8:33 am to
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Being scratch is an awesome achievement but it doesn’t really mean shite in the “real” golf world of money. It’s the equivalent to a 4.5 tennis player. You are better than almost everyone around you, you look legit, but you are so far away from money golf or tennis it’s not even close



Very true. I've played with a pretty good AM golfer who played in college and in his older years 30s has played in the state AMs in Louisiana, Georgia and California with a legit +3 handicap and even he says he get's smoked at the more elite AM levels. Not even mini tour stuff

What's funny is with some of the slopes theses course were playing at he could still be in plus territory without shooting under par.
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 8:54 am
Posted by 3PieceSpicy
Metairie
Member since Jan 2021
7106 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 10:16 am to
I was more or less talking about random golf influencers that claim they are scratch, but when you look at the courses they play, it’s a bunch of 475 yard par 5, 330 par 4, 135 yard par 3 type shite

And if you are only taking 8 out of 20 rds

I think my original comment of a modern day scratch only averaging a 74-76, vs a 72, was pretty accurate

The handicap system is fricked these days. It’s got a bunch of people thinking they are better than they are

In my mind, if I average a 77, I’m a 5 handicap. But if mtake into account, I’m playing 73-74 course ratings, and not deleting 60% of rounds, I’m probably technically a modern day “scratch golfer”, which wasn’t the way the handicap system worked when I actually kept a handicap back in my high school days.

I think the handicap system is mostly a sham these days. And people game that flawed system even more to try to impress people. Meanwhile, they can never break 80-85 in a tournament setting, while claiming/boasting of a sub 5 handicap.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 3:17 pm to
Shooting scratch on one course is also deceptive.

As I was told when I was humbled playing a few courses in south Alabama after working my handicap down playing Pelican Point 3 times a week.

"It's great to have a 10" dick at home, but if you can't take it out to show others does it really matter?"
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