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re: Is it trashy to bring your own beer to the golf course?
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:49 pm to icegator337
Posted on 2/14/18 at 4:49 pm to icegator337
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If the rule is no outside beverages then it's clearly trashy. Same as it's trashy to go off cart path when the course is CPO. You shouldn't get to choose what rules to follow
Well said. I think this is the thing that makes it trashy for me. All of the courses I play have this posted. I'm just not a fan that thinks they are above the rules.
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Posted on 2/14/18 at 6:33 pm to Bho
We usually buy a sixer then re-fill at the truck when needed. Buddy has a in on some silver bullets on the cheap but they are 10oz. Played all day and between four of us polished off a case. Next time we played at the aforementioned course, the girl in the 19th hole busted us. She had to clean the carts, and saw all the 10ozers got the cart number and remembered to reminds us.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 8:30 am to Bho
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I'm just not a fan that thinks they are above the rules.
There are rules for the protection of the course..."CPO/90 degree"
and there are "rules" that they must state for insurance reasons..."no outside coolers"
Not the same situation IMO.
At my home course the carts have the following verbiage on them: "keep arms and legs inside the cart at all times while moving."
Do you follow this rule by the book as well or do you let your leg hang outside the cart?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:20 am to The Sicilian
This is a slippery slope for me. If the course wants to charge you $6 a beer, then I can't blame someone for bringing their own. I don't like to because courses have a hard enough time making money that I like to spend when I can so as to help them stay around. My home course sells cans for $2 and longnecks for $2.50. That's reasonable enough for them to expect you not to bring your own beer. If you try to gouge the people playing even more for beer than I don't really feel bad for them not trying to run up a $35 bar tab.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:24 am to SaturdayTraditions
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There are rules for the protection of the course..."CPO/90 degree" and there are "rules" that they must state for insurance reasons..."no outside coolers" Not the same situation IMO. At my home course the carts have the following verbiage on them: "keep arms and legs inside the cart at all times while moving." Do you follow this rule by the book as well or do you let your leg hang outside the cart?
Your statements above are stretching things:
— CPO: Agreed, this is to protect the course.
— No outside cooler: this is about sales, not insurance
— Cart warning stickers: those are product manufacturer warning labels, not the club or course rules
Posted on 2/15/18 at 9:26 am to DivotBreath
Hell in Ohio it is a violation of state law to bring outside alcohol of any kind.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 10:49 am to SaturdayTraditions
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I can assure you from years working in a Pro Shop in high school and college... these places aren't paying the bills with beer sales so I don't feel guilty one bit.
You were handling the Financials, Purchasing and AP in high school and college at a golf course?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:12 am to lsuhunt555
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If the course wants to charge you $6 a beer, then I can't blame someone for bringing their own. I don't like to because courses have a hard enough time making money that I like to spend when I can so as to help them stay around. My home course sells cans for $2 and longnecks for $2.50. That's reasonable enough for them to expect you not to bring your own beer.
I have only played one course that charged $6 for a beer and it was a Top 50 course and a craft beer.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 11:18 am to SaturdayTraditions
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I can assure you from years working in a Pro Shop in high school and college... these places aren't paying the bills with beer sales so I don't feel guilty one bit.
alcohol is probably the most marked up and profitable item at any golf course Posted on 2/15/18 at 12:37 pm to Front9Bandit
quote:Next to Pro V1s
alcohol is probably the most marked up and profitable item at any golf course
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:29 pm to lsuhunt555
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My home course sells cans for $2 and longnecks for $2.50. That's reasonable enough for them to expect you not to bring your own beer. If you try to gouge the people playing even more for beer than I don't really feel bad for them not trying to run up a $35 bar tab.
If that is the case I would buy from the course.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:31 pm to DivotBreath
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Your statements above are stretching things:
Nope... he said he didn't want to pick and choose which rules to follow. I want to know if he follows every single rule as written on the cart.
As for the outside cooler warning: it is about 50/50 sales and liability insurance...
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:34 pm to lsu13lsu
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You were handling the Financials, Purchasing and AP in high school and college at a golf course?
No sweetheart but when you are doing about $100 worth of beer sale in a day and you make more than that per day on your paycheck... it is pretty easy math to do. Hell even if they sell $1000 worth of beer a day (not happening) the profit is probably $600... then once you pay the 12 greenskeepers, the cart boy, the clubhouse attendant, and the salary of the Pro... you certainly aren't keeping the course open on beer sales.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 2:35 pm to Front9Bandit
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alcohol is probably the most marked up and profitable item at any golf course
Which is why I buy and bring... what is so hard to understand?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:04 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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No sweetheart but when you are doing about $100 worth of beer sale in a day and you make more than that per day on your paycheck... it is pretty easy math to do. Hell even if they sell $1000 worth of beer a day (not happening) the profit is probably $600... then once you pay the 12 greenskeepers, the cart boy, the clubhouse attendant, and the salary of the Pro... you certainly aren't keeping the course open on beer sales.
One thing I have found since I have grown out of my high school and college years and started running multiple businesses, is that the low level employees think they know everything and have little to no deep factual basis. They have little access to the complete picture yet think they are superior to everyone. You worked in a single pro shop a few days yet think you know the exact alcohol sales and profits for every club out there.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:12 pm to lsu13lsu
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One thing I have found since I have grown out of my high school and college years and started running multiple businesses, is that the low level employees think they know everything and have little to no deep factual basis. They have little access to the complete picture yet think they are superior to everyone. You worked in a single pro shop a few days yet think you know the exact alcohol sales and profits for every club out there.
That would likely be accurate except I didn't say I knew them all, I just mentioned what happened at the course I worked at. One thing I've found out since starting my own business... your low level employees know WAY more than you think they do and have their finger on the pulse of your business. Keep treating them as though they are peons...
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:34 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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Nope... he said he didn't want to pick and choose which rules to follow. I want to know if he follows every single rule as written on the cart.
I said it's trashy not to follow the rules, but that I do bring vodka in my bag (a pint of absolut and a can of Arnold Palmer from the gas station is cheaper than a double of that drink at the course). Sometimes being a bit trashy is a burden we all have to bear.
Of course everyone should follow at least the spirit of the cart rules. Do you need to be sure that your arm is completely inside the cart at all times? No.
Is it ok to stand behind the area that holds the bags while holding onto the roof of the cart and look like a moron causing chaos? Of course not.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:45 pm to The Sicilian
If its a country club, yes.
If its a public course, absolutely not.
We play a really nice public course in Nashville regularly. They sell beer, but we pay $80 a round already and do it frequently, so we bring our own beer instead of paying $5 a beer for Budweiser.
And the cart girls are like unicorns, so that's their fault partially.
If its a public course, absolutely not.
We play a really nice public course in Nashville regularly. They sell beer, but we pay $80 a round already and do it frequently, so we bring our own beer instead of paying $5 a beer for Budweiser.
And the cart girls are like unicorns, so that's their fault partially.
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:51 pm to Bho
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If the rule is no outside beverages then it's clearly trashy. Same as it's trashy to go off cart path when the course is CPO. You shouldn't get to choose what rules to follow
Well said. I think this is the thing that makes it trashy for me. All of the courses I play have this posted. I'm just not a fan that thinks they are above the rules.
Man, there are some serious pussies in this world
Do you look down on people who sneak a candy bar into movie theaters?
Posted on 2/15/18 at 3:52 pm to SaturdayTraditions
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That would likely be accurate except I didn't say I knew them all, I just mentioned what happened at the course I worked at. One thing I've found out since starting my own business... your low level employees know WAY more than you think they do and have their finger on the pulse of your business. Keep treating them as though they are peons...
I don't treat anyone like a peon. I respect their thoughts on things they know. But, a cartboy/proshop clerk isn't going to know my entire P&L or BS. Also, I am just shocked everyday at how little myself and my coworkers knew when we were young and how much we thought we knew. You see I am not arrogant, I can see this. Now that I have the entire picture it is much easier to see that maybe I didn't know it all. But it is clear you know it all now and knew it all then.
You also spoke about your specific experience and extrapolated it to every course you visit to justify you being able to bring alcohol. Look if you want to bring alcohol just do it. Don't come on TD and try and justify it because one time you worked at a golf course and know everything there is to know about golf course alcohol sales.
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