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Does sprinting work your traps?
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:22 am
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:22 am
Idk if it’s just me, but I was sort of blown away at how yolked up the traps on so many of the sprinters from yesterday’s 100m final were. Is there something to them pumping their arms that really translates to the traps, or are these just the most explosive athletes so they’re covered everywhere with muscles?
The traps just seemed oddly pronounced on almost all of em, curious if that’s normal.
The traps just seemed oddly pronounced on almost all of em, curious if that’s normal.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:37 am to NolaLovingClemsonFan
most do lots of sumo deadlift because it works the hip hinge position which carries over to top end acceleration.
sprinters are strong AF. You can not be fast without being strong relative to bodyweight.
sprinters are strong AF. You can not be fast without being strong relative to bodyweight.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 9:39 am to NolaLovingClemsonFan
I imagine there's probably a couple things to it (and I'm just talking from a general kinesiology perspective):
- Because they heavily train their legs, they likely want good muscle balance throughout.
- Stronger shoulders likely help with coming off the blocks in an explosive manner since your start position is on your fingertips. And strong arms likely help maintain balance during the sprint.
- Because they heavily train their legs, they likely want good muscle balance throughout.
- Stronger shoulders likely help with coming off the blocks in an explosive manner since your start position is on your fingertips. And strong arms likely help maintain balance during the sprint.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 10:50 am to NolaLovingClemsonFan
Full body workouts, RDL’s, deads, farmers walk, and weighted lunges are just some that hit legs but will ignite your traps.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:20 pm to lsu777
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most do lots of sumo deadlift because it works the hip hinge position which carries over to top end acceleration.
Makes sense, don’t think of that as the most traps-focused lift, though
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sprinters are strong AF. You can not be fast without being strong relative to bodyweight.
Yea, you can always tell that they’re absolutely chiseled, but a number of them this year looked like absolutely Olympic lifters with how huge their traps were, seemed surprising but maybe always the norm.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 12:42 pm to NolaLovingClemsonFan
Sprinting is probably the most effective exercise ever. Not sure if it does anything for traps lol but you can bet that anyone that sprints that much also takes care of everything else in their body.
Mark Sisson, one of my favorite fitness people ever, says all the time that sprinting is the single best activity to promote body fat loss and fittness breakthroughs and I totally believe it.
Mark Sisson, one of my favorite fitness people ever, says all the time that sprinting is the single best activity to promote body fat loss and fittness breakthroughs and I totally believe it.
Posted on 8/5/24 at 1:32 pm to NolaLovingClemsonFan
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most do lots of sumo deadlift because it works the hip hinge position which carries over to top end acceleration.
Makes sense, don’t think of that as the most traps-focused lift, though
They for sure work the traps hard.
Explosive Olympic lifts that sprinters perform also hit the traps like crazy
Posted on 8/5/24 at 5:58 pm to NolaLovingClemsonFan
I'd guess they're also doing lots of power or hang cleans.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 8:06 am to 632627
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I'd guess they're also doing lots of power or hang cleans.
some do but since velocity meters have really become affordable and mainstream we have come to realize that for the most part olympic lifts are useless for dynamic power work
they tend to fall in that velocity spectrum that is too fast for maximum motor recruitment(to light for max effort) and too slow for rate of force development training(dynamic effort) and dont really help sprinting or vertical after the first 3-6 months of training
so most good coaches are doing 2 things when it comes to lifting for sprinters and field athletes
1) acceleration- using paused box squats to work the static-dynamic method. combining this with weighted vertical jumps. usually in the form of DB jumps. all jumps are monitored and all lifts are monitored using VBT. depending on the training age, they are sticking to breif max tension method or more traditional max effort/dynamic effort work here.
2) some are then combining olympic lifts here but using vbt to monitor speed and follow the velocities laid out by bondarchuuck, mann, stiff, verkhoshansky etc which for most puts them working in that 30%-40% range
3) using resisted sprints, weather its heavy arse sled drags and pushes with the prowler or with the 1080 sprint or run rocket to work the shin angle positions and horizontal force production
this is on top of extensive plyometrics they are doing. but everything is monitored and everything is done at full blow so very long rest periods between sprints. complete recovery
for top end work
1) getting strong at hip hinge movements, but really focus is on sumo deadlift as it has the most carryover. same type protocol as box squat. will even use box deadlifting and deficits also with me/de work
2) huge focus on broad jump. using resisted broads and bounding jumps to push horizontal force production
3) on top of the resisted sprints there is also a huge emphasis on getting the amount of strides taken in a race down. they use wickets to slowly increase stride length. Every session is videoed and they will incresae stride length and then also set up multiple laser gate timers, and even multiple lasers that can measure ground contact time as they run/bound through locations
then athletes is velocity profiled with the vbt and 1080 sprint and they attack the weaknesses
its all building on first the work the russians/louie simmons did but then also building on what charlie francis did and then what dereck hanson has done along with a few others who have really really pushed the envelope.
the 1080 sprint especially the new version is really pushing things
this is not to mention all the upper body work they do in the weight room to be able to punch with the arms. they are tracking arm turnover rate too which is predictive of leg turnover rate.
hell some of the cutting edge places even have force plates built into the track throughout a race distance and then they combine the laser gate timers, the 1080 sprint and they can id a weakness quickly in the top level sprinters. its crazy what tech has done.
these places can tell you your velocity, time, force production, ground contact time on top of other things for any 10 yard split in the race. its nuts. then they use that to design the sprint protocol.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:18 pm to lsu777
All true and great observations. As a former sprinter and jumper will say its less of an emphasis on Olympic lifts and lots of deadlifts like you said. And jumping all day, every day, building explosiveness. Resistance training is definitely a big part of this, and using the sled is a must.
Also combined with building explosive power, tons of mobility work. Not necessarily the same as gymnast, but more building flexibility and maintaining form under maximum effort. At the highest level a small break in form (like arms crossing in front instead of horizontal or a small variance in knee high or stride length during a sprint) will kill you.
Last, while sprinters are yoked, most actually race at a much lighter weight that people would assume. At 6.2 my best jumping weight was probably 160, and best sprinting weight 165. That was 20 years ago, maybe with modern training those might be 165 and 170. I was more of a 200/400 guy, 100m guys are usually a little thicker, but always. Noah Lyles in peak shape at 5.11 probably runs at 160-165. Usain Bolt was definitely an outlier at 190-200 at 6.5.
Also combined with building explosive power, tons of mobility work. Not necessarily the same as gymnast, but more building flexibility and maintaining form under maximum effort. At the highest level a small break in form (like arms crossing in front instead of horizontal or a small variance in knee high or stride length during a sprint) will kill you.
Last, while sprinters are yoked, most actually race at a much lighter weight that people would assume. At 6.2 my best jumping weight was probably 160, and best sprinting weight 165. That was 20 years ago, maybe with modern training those might be 165 and 170. I was more of a 200/400 guy, 100m guys are usually a little thicker, but always. Noah Lyles in peak shape at 5.11 probably runs at 160-165. Usain Bolt was definitely an outlier at 190-200 at 6.5.
Posted on 8/6/24 at 1:51 pm to NOLALGD
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All true and great observations. As a former sprinter and jumper will say its less of an emphasis on Olympic lifts and lots of deadlifts like you said. And jumping all day, every day, building explosiveness. Resistance training is definitely a big part of this, and using the sled is a must.
Also combined with building explosive power, tons of mobility work. Not necessarily the same as gymnast, but more building flexibility and maintaining form under maximum effort. At the highest level a small break in form (like arms crossing in front instead of horizontal or a small variance in knee high or stride length during a sprint) will kill you.
Last, while sprinters are yoked, most actually race at a much lighter weight that people would assume. At 6.2 my best jumping weight was probably 160, and best sprinting weight 165. That was 20 years ago, maybe with modern training those might be 165 and 170. I was more of a 200/400 guy, 100m guys are usually a little thicker, but always. Noah Lyles in peak shape at 5.11 probably runs at 160-165. Usain Bolt was definitely an outlier at 190-200 at 6.5.
yep
many people think they train turnover rate too but that isnt true because cant really improve that much after puberty
focus is on ground force acceleration drills and then top end. and huge focus on number of strides it takes to finish the race. prolly 95% of the time, he who takes the least amount of steps to cover the distance, wins the race.
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