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Hungover feeling in mornings (without drinking)
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:42 am
Mid 30s.
Last few years, every morning feels like I drank 4 bourbons and had a couple IPAs the night before.
I hardly drink anymore, maybe one or two drinks a week on the weekend.
Waking up feeling sore, throbbing headache, disshoveled, groggy etc.
Things I've tried... increasing water intake, adding salt/electrolytes, getting better sleep, losing weight, taking vitamin D and multi, exercise, and generally trying to eat better.
Last few years, every morning feels like I drank 4 bourbons and had a couple IPAs the night before.
I hardly drink anymore, maybe one or two drinks a week on the weekend.
Waking up feeling sore, throbbing headache, disshoveled, groggy etc.
Things I've tried... increasing water intake, adding salt/electrolytes, getting better sleep, losing weight, taking vitamin D and multi, exercise, and generally trying to eat better.
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 9:43 am
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Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:46 am to burger bearcat
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getting better sleep, losing weight, taking vitamin D and multi, exercise, and generally trying to eat better.
Well have you done these things or have you tried to do them? Big difference
You’re clearly sleeping like shite, but no one can even hypothesize as to why with the information you gave
Posted on 3/20/25 at 9:58 am to burger bearcat
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throbbing headache,
Ever check your BP?
Morning headaches could be from uncontrolled BP
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:01 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Well have you done these things or have you tried to do them? Big difference
Yes. I follow the regiment pretty religiously. I put on a little bit of a dad belly after my 4th kid, but have lost 40 or 50 lbs over the past few years, and I am generally in good shape all things considered (175 lbs, 5ft 11)
I admit to being pretty busy with work and other personal stuff, so my sleep is probably not 8 every night, but more likely 6 or 7 on alot of nights.
Is it simply not getting the sleep? Or is it bad sleep?
This post was edited on 3/20/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:04 am to burger bearcat
Any chance you have sleep apnea? Do you snore at night?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:16 am to hogfly
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Any chance you have sleep apnea? Do you snore at night?
Had some snoring when I put on weight. After I dropped the weight my wife says the snoring stopped. Did an at home sleep study that had inconclusive results, when I was snoring.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:18 am to burger bearcat
You need to go see a doc and get bloodwork
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:18 am to jose
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Ever check your BP?
Morning headaches could be from uncontrolled BP
At my most recent checkup a few weeks ago, it was in normal range. (I don't recall the number)
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:19 am to scottydoesntknow
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You need to go see a doc and get bloodwork
Had some done. Cholesterol was at 202, slightly elevated. Everything else was generally normal, but doc ordered more tests which I will get this weekend.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:32 am to burger bearcat
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but more likely 6 or 7 on alot of nights. Is it simply not getting the sleep? Or is it bad sleep?
Do you use a sleep tracker? Most people grossly overestimate the amount of sleep they actually get. I’m betting you’re in bed 6 or 7 hours max and getting at best 5ish hours.
Get a sleep tracker. Apple Watch, oura ring, whoop, etc.
Those can also tell you (to some extent) whether you’re getting enough deep sleep, rem sleep and how many times you wake up during the night.
Also, what’s your caffeine intake like? Caffeine has a half life of roughly 5 hours, meaning even 10 hours after drinking you can still have ~25% of that in your body. Even if you’re able to fall asleep, caffeine can deter your ability to enter deep sleep.
There’s a podcast series about sleep that’s helped me a ton, Dr. Matt Walker with Andrew Huberman does a 6 part series that’s extremely informative.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:36 am to burger bearcat
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At my most recent checkup a few weeks ago, it was in normal range. (I don't recall the number)
I'd keep a more stringent log of your BP. Check it a few times a day.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:40 am to Not Cooper
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Do you use a sleep tracker? Most people grossly overestimate the amount of sleep they actually get. I’m betting you’re in bed 6 or 7 hours max and getting at best 5ish hours.
Get a sleep tracker. Apple Watch, oura ring, whoop, etc.
Those can also tell you (to some extent) whether you’re getting enough deep sleep, rem sleep and how many times you wake up during the night.
Also, what’s your caffeine intake like? Caffeine has a half life of roughly 5 hours, meaning even 10 hours after drinking you can still have ~25% of that in your body. Even if you’re able to fall asleep, caffeine can deter your ability to enter deep sleep.
There’s a podcast series about sleep that’s helped me a ton, Dr. Matt Walker with Andrew Huberman does a 6 part series that’s extremely informative.
Thanks for the info. I do not do any of this, but think it would be helpful.
What are your thoughts on melatonin? Magnesium? Or other sleep supplements?
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:44 am to burger bearcat
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Did an at home sleep study that had inconclusive results, when I was snoring.
Do you have an Apple Watch? It can monitor you for sleep apnea.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:45 am to burger bearcat
Your simple sugar intake an issue? Too much makes me feel like your description.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:48 am to burger bearcat
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What are your thoughts on melatonin? Magnesium? Or other sleep supplements?
They can be helpful, but they are just supplements. They won’t do much for you if you aren’t getting the big things right. If you’re only in bed 6 hours melatonin is likely only going to make you more groggy when you wake up.
I’d focus on sleep duration and quality first, then reevaluate
Posted on 3/20/25 at 10:48 am to burger bearcat
I’ve used magnesium and melatonin. My take is that both do help with falling asleep when my mind is racing with a million things. But I don’t think the quality of sleep I get with those is nearly as good as a natural non-pharmaceutical sleep. To me, the best sleep I get is when I’ve had a busy day, but not overly stressful, and I exercise, particularly lifting heavy weights.
Posted on 3/20/25 at 11:26 am to burger bearcat
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What are your thoughts on melatonin? Magnesium?
My wife has some difficulties with sleep. She feels that melatonin mainly just helps her fall asleep but doesn't do much on overall quality of sleep. She feels like magnesium, on the other hand, has increased the quality of her sleep as well as her ability to fall back asleep when she wakes up to go to the bathroom in middle of night.
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