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What would SARMs do for a 40 year old female
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:56 pm
Long story short, my brother’s wife has been working out with a “personal trainer” lately. Brother doesn’t think much about it, but then his wife comes home with a bottle of Ostarine MK 2866 and a bottle of Andarine S4 with a label on it from a company called SP Products.
He was a little freaked out and I told him to trash the stuff. The trainer’s boyfriend who works at the supplement store suggested a regimen to cut and gain lean mass with these. The bottles even say not for human consumption on them multiple times.
Any help on what these actually are so we can tell her what the heck she is putting in her body and what the risks are? Thanks.
He was a little freaked out and I told him to trash the stuff. The trainer’s boyfriend who works at the supplement store suggested a regimen to cut and gain lean mass with these. The bottles even say not for human consumption on them multiple times.
Any help on what these actually are so we can tell her what the heck she is putting in her body and what the risks are? Thanks.
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Posted on 5/17/20 at 9:58 pm to TigerGrad2011
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The bottles even say not for human consumption on them multiple times.
Think Darwin will handle this one for you.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:02 pm to TigerGrad2011
Depends on her progress and goals but mostly sounds like she probably needs to drop this guy like a bad habit
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:03 pm to TigerGrad2011
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The bottles even say not for human consumption on them multiple times
Because they cannot be sold to anyone without those statements.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:07 pm to TigerGrad2011
They have to put not for human consumption to keep from getting in trouble with the law.
As far as the question, not the ones you listed that's for fricking sure. The only ones a female may and I stress may should run would be gw(caradine) or whatever it's called and mk677. But they would only do that if competing and they make money from their body.
Be much better off with peptides though if you really wanted to go that away. But again, should only be if you make money from your body and if you are doing that then you should already be doing your own research. And as a female it should be extremely low doses.
As far as the question, not the ones you listed that's for fricking sure. The only ones a female may and I stress may should run would be gw(caradine) or whatever it's called and mk677. But they would only do that if competing and they make money from their body.
Be much better off with peptides though if you really wanted to go that away. But again, should only be if you make money from your body and if you are doing that then you should already be doing your own research. And as a female it should be extremely low doses.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:08 pm to TigerGrad2011
Ostarine + Andarine stack for women works very well. She's likely to see double or triple the progress in a 8 week cycle than she'd see without the SARMs with very low risk of side effects or negative post cycle effects.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:23 pm to lsu777
Can you talk to me like I’m 10 years old. Need this dumbed down for me.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:24 pm to Huey Lewis
So you are saying these products are fine to take?
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:36 pm to TigerGrad2011
SARMs are not FDA approved, so companies skirt around that issue by selling them to people as "research chemicals" and putting "not for human consumption" on the product labels. That way, the companies are covered legally if someone takes a SARM, has a horrible negative effect from it, and wants to sue the company.
What is his wife's workout history? No way should the trainer - or in the case, the trainer's boyfriend who works at a supplement store - be recommending SARMs to someone just starting out.
What is his wife's workout history? No way should the trainer - or in the case, the trainer's boyfriend who works at a supplement store - be recommending SARMs to someone just starting out.
This post was edited on 5/17/20 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 11:44 pm to TigerGrad2011
Tell him to trash that shite
Posted on 5/18/20 at 12:33 am to TigerGrad2011
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Can you talk to me like I’m 10 years old
Yea why is she trying to take these? If she is just trying to get fit, then it's fricking stupid to take them.
Is she a pro bodybuilder? At 40 years old....that is very doubtful and even if she is close how much longer does she have to make money from the sport?
In other words she shouldn't be taking the stuff, doesn't make sense to be doing these.
Can these be used safely and effectively? Sure, but doesn't make sense unless you are extremely advanced and you are not hiring a trainer if you are that advanced.
What does she have experience wise? What kind of training does she currently do? What are her goals? What is her diet like and how strict and dedicated is she?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:22 am to The Pain Train
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SARMs are not FDA approved, so companies skirt around that issue by selling them to people as "research chemicals" and putting "not for human consumption" on the product labels. That way, the companies are covered legally if someone takes a SARM, has a horrible negative effect from it, and wants to sue the company.
Eh. I’m no product liability attorney, but I’m not sure if it works this way.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:31 am to Mo Jeaux
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I’m no product liability attorney, but I’m not sure if it works this way.
In the supplement and grey mark supplement market...yes it does. Its all about not being slapped with the introduction and distribution of a non approved medicine charge.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:47 am to lsu777
It may mitigate the viability of those claims, but I doubt it acts as a complete liability shield.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:16 am to lsu777
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Yea why is she trying to take these? If she is just trying to get fit, then it's fricking stupid to take them.
Is she a pro bodybuilder? At 40 years old....that is very doubtful and even if she is close how much longer does she have to make money from the sport?
In other words she shouldn't be taking the stuff, doesn't make sense to be doing these.
Can these be used safely and effectively? Sure, but doesn't make sense unless you are extremely advanced and you are not hiring a trainer if you are that advanced.
What does she have experience wise? What kind of training does she currently do? What are her goals? What is her diet like and how strict and dedicated is she?
She’s a mom trying to lose weight. Experience is minimal as she wasn’t an athlete of any sort and just started working out in the last couple of years. I mentioned it’s all about diet previously and got eye rolls
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:30 am to TigerGrad2011
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She’s a mom trying to lose weight. Experience is minimal as she wasn’t an athlete of any sort and just started working out in the last couple of years. I mentioned it’s all about diet previously and got eye rolls
Well then she is fricking retarded for even considering and even dumber to not consider diet the biggest thing.
Sarms are essentially steroids but with slightly different mechanisms. The ones you mentioned do affect hormones.
In the end if she is just trying to get ripped she just needs to learn to train and diet properly. Using a sarm would be dumb as shite in her case.
You should tell her to sign up here and we can help lay things out for her. For diet I highly suggest booty by Brett and then for diet, she can follow RP or leangains or just a basic if it fits your macros approach or ketogains approach. Doesn't matter so long as she consistently hits her macros over and over.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:35 am to TigerGrad2011
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She’s a mom trying to lose weight. Experience is minimal as she wasn’t an athlete of any sort and just started working out in the last couple of years. I mentioned it’s all about diet previously and got eye rolls
This is gonna go poorly for her, IMO.
SARMS can legitimately help, assuming the source is legit. A lot of them aren't.
Her bigger issue is going to be that it's stupid to take SARMS without a solid foundation in diet and exercise. They have side effects, just milder than steroids.
If she takes them, but her diet/exercise is lacking, she may see temporary gains. Those gains will all go away when she cycles off SARMS, because diet and exercise are the only things that sustain gains when SARMS go away.
Heck, even with SARMS on top of poor diet and exercise, she may not see a difference or a minimal difference.
Putting a beginner or SARMS or steroids without a solid foundation in diet and exercise, it's like dropping a jet engine in a Geo Metro. It might go well for a but, but it won't be sustainable.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:46 am to Mo Jeaux
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It may mitigate the viability of those claims, but I doubt it acts as a complete liability shield.
So long as a company you make it clear it's not for humans and only for experimenting on rats and you never ever give advice different from that....it holds up in court or at least has in a few cases.
The feds have popped those that stray from that mutiple times. Even those that advertise on bb boards have gotten popped for that.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 10:49 am to TigerGrad2011
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TigerGrad2011
She’s a mom trying to lose weight. Experience is minimal as she wasn’t an athlete of any sort and just started working out in the last couple of years. I mentioned it’s all about diet previously and got eye rolls
If she is essentially just starting out and just wants to get fit, then putting her on SARMs right from the jump when she could make respectable "newbie gains" just from being disciplined with her training and diet is butt-fricking retarded.
Tell her to stop being so enamored with trying to get a body from a bottle and just focus on making a lifestyle change.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 11:27 am to The Pain Train
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Tell her to stop being so enamored with trying to get a body from a bottle and just focus on making a lifestyle change.
Here's what she'll get with SARMS without a lifestyle change. She'll get temporary gains that will go away as soon as she stops using them because her underlying diet and exercise programming sucks.
She may get some side effects from them. Hopefully those will go away, but they've got a better chance of being permanent than the gains will be.
So she's basically buying side effects and nothing else.
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