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How much should I expect to pay for good outdoor landscape lighting fixtures?

Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:34 am
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:34 am
I'm looking for a ballpark price per fixture (not for transformer or labor)… Something high-quality and waterproof.

I am looking at puck lights to light up some hollies.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Sir Saint
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 11:47 am to
I have this kit and have been very satisfied. Others on this board will vouch for Volt as a solid, dependable, well-made brand. I'll upload a pic in a minute so you can get an idea of the end result.

You can check out the prices of individual fixtures on their website LINK

ETA: pic for reference
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:10 pm to
I got Kichler brand lights which are the higher end at Lowes. They have held up well, except for the one I ran over with the lawn mower.
About $150 for the transformer and 50$ per light. Can't recall cost of wire but it is expensive.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:16 pm to
Yep, check out the Volt website.
Posted by viv1d
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 12:41 pm to
I'd recommend calling Keeling Co or SiteOne and get them to quote you Kichler lights. That's all we use
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 1:08 pm to
How much did it cost to install that kit?
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 1:22 pm to
Just a quick search I'm seeing between $25-$30/light on some sites that look like good quality lights. Hole cutting tool ($15 for a set at Harbor Freight), then a lot of 12/2 wire ($90-$100/100 feet) to connect them all together. Not sure what you would use to active the lights. I see some setups controlled by remote that run off a plug in the attic and would probably be cheaper than running wires to a switch inside house.

Attic access would make labor a lot cheaper if that's where the cables only have to enter.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 1:26 pm to
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Sir Saint


Does Volt also make a RGB kit? Not sure if my eyes are lying to me but I would be interested in possibly doing a setup like this but with RGB.
Posted by Sir Saint
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 1:35 pm to
I DIY’ed it. It is a piece of cake honestly. I don’t know shite about electrical anything and did this in about 6-8 hours of casual, beer drinking-pace work. A neighborhood teenager or any local handyman can do this at whatever hourly rate they charge if you’re dead set on outsourcing.

It’s as easy as mounting your transformer near an outdoor receptacle, placing your lights in desired locations, and running wire. If you’re running wire through flowerbeds, it will be pretty easy to cover wire under mulch. Running wire through grass will increase the work since you’ll have to trench. Having to run wire under concrete or sidewalk will be a giant PITA and at that point would prob be worth hiring out.
Posted by Sir Saint
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Does Volt also make a RGB kit? Not sure if my eyes are lying to me but I would be interested in possibly doing a setup like this but with RGB.


No kits that I'm aware of, but they do make some RGB fixtures.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Something high-quality and waterproof.



Basically there are two options:
Integrated LED vs traditional landscape lights (which you’ll put LED replaceable bulbs into).
Integrated LED will have better waterproofing, but they are disposable. Top-end brands are going to be FX, Kichler. Volt is decent quality, but they are the “disrupter” of the landscape lighting industry because they advertise their prices right off, and you’re usually getting sold all the parts and labor as one with relatively opaque pricing (from what I’ve gathered in several online forums- I’m not a pro, but I’ll upload a pic of my DIY backyard in a bit).


Now, that’s not EXACTLY true, as you CAN find some prices on some fixtures, but it takes a bit of digging. You said “puck,” so I’m assuming you mean something like an in-grade light. If that’s the case, check this out.


ETA: my DIY job:





First and last should give you an idea of the actual illumination. Middle should give a little more detail about placement. You’ll notice that it’s exceedingly difficult to take good low-light picture of light fixtures which are emitting light. It looks a lot better in person.
There are 6 uplights and 12 or so path lights. The uplights were broken/disconnected when I moved in. I replaced them and rewired them in about an hour and a half. The elm tree has had its light moved/replaced a couple of times for better illumination, and there are some plants that block the light a bit in that picture- it’s much more striking now and in person.

I actually just did my path lights a week ago today- my father in law had a couple styles in his yard, so he pulled these out and replaced them with ones like he had. Yay for me- so I was able to put these in over the course of about four beers.



To the guy asking about Volt and RGB- they do make an RGB flood. It’s about $100 if I remember. I have an upcoming project that I’m considering RGB for (half because I’m interested, half because I want individual fixture dimming/white tuning). 10 crepe myrtles and a medium- age live oak.


If you are considering RGB:
AliExpress sells a WS2811 10w flood that is RGB (you need a dc power supply and a controller, the combo can be had for ~$50) for $250/10 pack. This will give me “smart” control (WLED) of each fixture, be able to turn them on off, I could actually incorporate them In Christmas light shows, but it comes with a little unusual caveat- they require a “data” cable between them that goes in sequential order if you want to do this, so you have to actually wire them from one to the next (no T/split) and watch voltages

Alternative: if you have zigbee and mr16 fixtures, gledopto makes a zigbee mr16 bulb for about $16. It’s not bad. But it’s 4w, and colors are not so wonderfully bright and vibrant (looked pretty disappointing next to my 5000K 7w bulbs when I tried to make it red/green). No real good options in any non-mr16 landscape light bulb format.

RGB like the volt fixture are fine, but for that price, you’re nearly at the level you’ll pay for a Hue fixture (check them out at Costco- they usually have the best deals, you can often find their big spot with a power supply for about $99/light. It’s a 24v system with wireless connectivity for the fixtures for individual light control. Pretty neat, but I’m sticking with boring white column lighting (not pictured), hue down lights on the porch (pricey) and then cheap RGB for the trees, and if I hate it, I’ll have the wires run to just convert to nicer fixtures (the uplight I have everywhere else is the FX RS with the “short” shield. I recommend it. Very well made. If you watch, over the course of a 2-8 week process, you can find them dip to about $50 on Amazon and several other places if you’re ok with their bronze color (blends well with most mulch), but you’re looking closer to $100/pop for the long-shield version or another color. The Volt copper looks good on the internet. I haven’t touched them. Im considering their “salty dog” in grades in my back yard oh my brick columns, but my wife is informing me that I may be taking this a bit overboard.
This post was edited on 3/16/23 at 6:40 pm
Posted by Sir Saint
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Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/16/23 at 6:48 pm to
I know a fellow *might DIY this lil simple project but first must spend countless hours down the rabbit hole doing “research” for a job that take <1 day* guy when I see one
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:11 pm to
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Yep, check out the Volt website.
Agreed, IMO VoltLighting.com is the only way to go.

Our solid brass Volt fixtures have been in the ground 15 years with no issues except bulb replacement - which is easy because of the fixtures' good design.

We've got Volt path lights, spot lights, and post lights. I prefer to use their thickest, heaviest wire for the buried connections.



That crap I used to buy from the hardware store chains didn't last more than a couple of years outdoors.
Posted by agilitydawg
Member since Aug 2022
158 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 8:16 pm to
I replaced a home depot set Hampton Bay (?) with volt lighting a year plus ago and they are a much better quality fixture. Well made and good light output. Check Costco
LINK
Sometimes they run sales
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3345 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:10 pm to
Just got done adding lv lights to my front bed. Went with sunvie from Amazon as they were one of the few black fixtures that I liked (black was the only wife approved color).

Cant speak to the longevity, but the work and they're plenty bright for landscape lights.
Posted by guedeaux
Member since Jan 2008
13711 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 9:59 am to
It really is amazing how easy it is to do DIY landscaping lights.

I do want a good RGBW setup, but I am too cheap, er, I mean frugal to spend $100 per light.

I have one 20W RGBW that I converted to WLED, but can't do that with the newer versions.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3345 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 1:01 pm to
I don't have the spare time or the patience, but there are 12v RGB landscape lights on Amazon.

All of them appear to be made at the same place and have a hardwired controller/transformer.

I'm willing to bet you could chop off the hardwired transformer/controller and wire in something that is wled compatible.

You'd just have to find something that could withstand the electrical load it would take off a normal 200-300 watt 12v landscape lighting controller.
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1399 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

We've got Volt path lights, spot lights, and post lights. I prefer to use their thickest, heaviest wire for the buried connections.



Got any pictures? Did you install yourself?
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4949 posts
Posted on 3/19/23 at 4:58 pm to
17 replies in an not a single “‘bout $350!”
Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/20/23 at 8:42 am to
Leonlite

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This post was edited on 3/20/23 at 8:44 am
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