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New construction- pre wiring for smart home.
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:45 pm
Looking for the do’s and don’ts on pre-wiring for smart home capability. Is there any recommended local companies that handle this as well?
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 6:19 am to geauxcats10
Tech board might give you more detailed/nuanced answers, but in general having a dedicated media closet or central area where your cat 6 cables are coming in, preferably run through a conduit on the last leg to help with exchange in the future if needed.
Otherwise run the cables to everywhere you might need access: TV locations, gaming devices, media devices, eaves of the houses where you might want security cameras, access point locations. If there are locations where you expect to have multiple devices that would need to be hardwired, then would consider doing a POE switch at the termination, would eliminate the need for multiple cat 6 cable runs from your main switch.
Otherwise run the cables to everywhere you might need access: TV locations, gaming devices, media devices, eaves of the houses where you might want security cameras, access point locations. If there are locations where you expect to have multiple devices that would need to be hardwired, then would consider doing a POE switch at the termination, would eliminate the need for multiple cat 6 cable runs from your main switch.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:03 am to geauxcats10
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Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:22 am to geauxcats10
Don’t pre-wire, pre-conduit. Whatever wire you install today will be obsolete in a few years.
But everything is going wireless now so it’s not as big a deal.
But everything is going wireless now so it’s not as big a deal.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:25 am to geauxcats10
do put cat6/RJ45 outlets in every room you could ever think of a reason to use it (maybe not the kitchen, who knows). In large rooms put multiple Cat6/RJ45 outlets. Include Cat6 runs to the ceilings in central locations like hallways so you can install PoE ceiling mounted APs if so desired.
On the more controversial end, I did and recommend putting RG-6 outlets with every cat6/RJ45 outlet location. Coax is a very versatile medium that can carry 2.5Gbps+ data, OTA TV signals, cable internet, etc. Having multiple RG-6 locations allows you to easily find the best room for a small antenna (if you live in an urban area) and then distribute that one antenna signal to the rest of the house. If you ever may have cable internet, it also gives you the flexibility to locate your cable modem just about anywhere in the house. The modem location isn't that big of a deal but having the flexibility to locate your main router/wifi with it, gives the opportunity to get beter wifi coverage with less devices/extenders/APs/etc.
Do run all your cat6 and RG-6 to a central closet/location. From that central location run an RG-6 and a cat6 to the exterior of the home. Also, if you ever will have fiber, try and plan for a way for them to run the fiber from outside all the way to your central cabling location (1/2" conduit with pull string maybe?). Make sure that central location has a few outlets and shelving/racks/cabinets/etc. for housing modems, routers, switches, etc.
On the more controversial end, I did and recommend putting RG-6 outlets with every cat6/RJ45 outlet location. Coax is a very versatile medium that can carry 2.5Gbps+ data, OTA TV signals, cable internet, etc. Having multiple RG-6 locations allows you to easily find the best room for a small antenna (if you live in an urban area) and then distribute that one antenna signal to the rest of the house. If you ever may have cable internet, it also gives you the flexibility to locate your cable modem just about anywhere in the house. The modem location isn't that big of a deal but having the flexibility to locate your main router/wifi with it, gives the opportunity to get beter wifi coverage with less devices/extenders/APs/etc.
Do run all your cat6 and RG-6 to a central closet/location. From that central location run an RG-6 and a cat6 to the exterior of the home. Also, if you ever will have fiber, try and plan for a way for them to run the fiber from outside all the way to your central cabling location (1/2" conduit with pull string maybe?). Make sure that central location has a few outlets and shelving/racks/cabinets/etc. for housing modems, routers, switches, etc.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 8:28 am
Posted on 4/20/22 at 8:44 am to geauxcats10
structured wiring panel in central location
add wireless access points based on home size/layout
as others have said run cat6 to every room.
add wireless access points based on home size/layout
as others have said run cat6 to every room.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:26 am to poochie
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But everything is going wireless now so it’s not as big a deal.
no its not. Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:57 pm to CarRamrod
I mean, it is….
Cat5 10-15 years ago is phone line 20-25 years ago, cat6 will be obsolete in 10-15. If you’re that worried about hard wired, conduit is the answer.
Eta: A quick search shows cat8 already exists so that’s coming.
There have been 5 versions of hdmi since 2002
Hard wiring anything not in conduit at this point is fairly pointless, especially if you’re someone that likes the latest tech.
Cat5 10-15 years ago is phone line 20-25 years ago, cat6 will be obsolete in 10-15. If you’re that worried about hard wired, conduit is the answer.
Eta: A quick search shows cat8 already exists so that’s coming.
There have been 5 versions of hdmi since 2002
Hard wiring anything not in conduit at this point is fairly pointless, especially if you’re someone that likes the latest tech.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:26 pm to poochie
Cat6 is more than you will need in a typical home. Distances aren't enough to warrant 6A or "8" (lol)
www.belle-tech.com
www.belle-tech.com
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:37 pm to geauxcats10
Call my buddy Jeremy at Crescendo. He will treat you right.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 11:50 am to geauxcats10
A lot of the smart switches require a neutral, so might want to leave yourself a capped neutral pigtail in each of your light boxes.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 2:56 pm to shawnlsu
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A phone line is more than you will need in a typical home... (lol)
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Coax is more than you will need in a typical home... (lol)
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Cat3 is more than you will need in a typical home... (lol)
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Cat5 is more than you will need in a typical home... (lol)
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Cat6 is more than you will need in a typical home. Distances aren't enough to warrant 6A or "8" (lol)
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:02 pm to poochie
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Cat5 is more than you will need in a typical home... (lol)
Cat5e cable currently supports 10Gbps network speeds within a residential application. Are you implying that isn't enough these days?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:06 pm to notsince98
I’m not implying anything, I’m drawing a clear line and showing examples of how hard wiring with todays best isn’t a good plan because in a decade todays best will be obsolete. Whereas a hundred bucks of conduit (with todays best ran through it)installed during construction will essentially future proof your house.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 3:27 pm to poochie
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I’m not implying anything, I’m drawing a clear line and showing examples of how hard wiring with todays best isn’t a good plan because in a decade todays best will be obsolete. Whereas a hundred bucks of conduit (with todays best ran through it)installed during construction will essentially future proof your house.
RG-6 has also been around decades and still meets requirements for all the latest needs/standards.
I'm not sure I get your point. You listed off a few different types of technologies but that is about it.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 12:53 am to notsince98
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RG-6 has also been around decades and still meets requirements for all the latest needs/standards.
RG6 like all coaxial cable degrades with age. Heat in attics causes migration of the center conductor in the dielectric material, high humidity can also be absorbed by the foam dielectric, both result in higher attenuation. Conduit makes replacement easy.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 10:53 am to EA6B
So is it Cat5 or Cat6 for ~$20 more per drop?
Posted on 4/22/22 at 5:15 pm to bengalman
That's kind of a weird way to price cable drops because of the scale of the job. I went with Cat6 and it was only about 10% more expensive than Cat5, so I decided it was worth it.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:25 pm to poochie
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cat8 already exists
Yes.
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so that’s coming.
No.
Posted on 4/22/22 at 7:47 pm to Hopeful Doc
The point is, technology is advancing at a breakneck pace. Why constrict yourself to what’s adequate now? Think about how different tech was in 2002 from today. You assume no advancement between now and 2042?
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