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Removing old ceramic tile

Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:21 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:21 am
I will have to remove some ceramic tile in a master bath. The flooring company wants to charge $4.25 to remove the old tile. That seems a bit excessive to me. Is there a recommended way to remove it from the slab? What about the residue left under the tile? Thanks.
Posted by lilsnappa
Red Stick
Member since Mar 2006
1827 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:32 am to
There's a reason they charge that much.

Depending on how much quickest was used its somewhere between a huge pain to impossible unless you have the right tools.

Regardless, expect to have dust in your house for months after you finished sanding off all the adhesive.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:36 am to
That is what I am afraid of. This will all be done be fore we move in. I may have found another alternative route though.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46112 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:36 am to
It is possible that after the tile is removed, the resining thinset has to be be removed by grinder or sander
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
35140 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 7:43 am to
I did it, go rent a hammer chisel. I rented one from Home Depot.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45405 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 9:05 am to
This is not a difficult job, just a very tedious one. $4.25/sq ft tile removal is insane enough to make me tackle that job myself. And while you're at it, just lay down the new tile yourself as well.

It's not hard, just time-consuming and very dusty so make sure you block off the rest of your home with plastic sheets and tape to keep the dust confined to one area. Youtube the job and you'll learn very quickly that there's really not much to it.

It'll help to break each tile into smaller pieces with a hammer first. Just be sure not to hit them too hard or you may damage the slab underneath. Once you have the tile broken up it'll be easier to sweep it up and remove the bigger pieces then you'll have a better idea of what you have left to go and chisel out/remove/smooth out. Just be very careful because broken tile is razor sharp. Wear gloves!
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 9:07 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Wear gloves!


Glasses too! At $4.25, I would pay.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22363 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 9:41 am to
$4.25 is not bad at all, $4-6/ sq ft is normal for tile demo. Its fairly often about $5/ sq ft for tile demo, $5 sq ft for new tile and thinset materials, and then $5/ sq ft for laying the new. How big of an area are you talking OP? To rent the proper hammer tool or jackhammer with a thinset blade is going to $120-200. If we are talking like 100 sq ft for a bathroom I'd absolutely pay it.

DON'T break the tile up if they are ceramic, that's wrong. Because many times if the thinset is not done great you can get the entire tile or a huge portion of each tile up all together instead of having 1000 pieces. Once you get some practice you can hammerdrill a corner of the tile and it will often time remove the entire thing.

I rented a jackhammer on a cart with a thinset blade, you gotta get the thinset blade as its got a litte flex to remove the thinset from the concrete. But I rented it to do like 1000 sq ft and it took me pretty much all weekend. Just the tile removal for 1000 sq ft is only like 4 hours but the thinset and clean up is double and triple the work. Not to mention all of the dust clean up.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by Farmer Joe
Member since Jun 2020
74 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 9:44 am to
Just go over the top of it with luxury vinyl
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 9:50 am to
We went to a flooring place last night and I was looking for ceramic. The lady showed me a new type of tile made from vinyl. It is thick and heavy like ceramic with the same texture. It can be laid on top of the existing ceramic. Therefore, I can possibly rip out the bathtub enclosure and install some cheap ceramic. Then come on top of that with the vinyl stuff. That may be cheaper and easier. Here is a pic of what I am ripping out. I am ripping the shower out too.

Posted by Farmer Joe
Member since Jun 2020
74 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:22 am to
Yep exactly
Posted by boodro
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2013
872 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:54 am to
if the underneath
of the tile is like this ....it’s super easy. If you have some thicker white mortar it’s a lot tougher . Creates a fine dust and is much harder. Try taking one off a tile with a hammer and chisel. Test and area and see if it comes off easy.....if it does go rent what’s in the picture
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 10:56 am
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86284 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:59 am to
Most of the thinset should come up with a scraper. You can fill in the divots with self-leveling cement.

If you do use a grinder, get a fan to blow out the dust. It's not only harmful for your lungs, but it will choke you to death
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18885 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:23 pm to
Hammer drill mini jack hammer
Rent a shot blaster after you pull up the tile that will prep the floor a good weekend project
Posted by Milescb28
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2008
209 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:29 pm to
Hammer drill will knock a bathroom out in an afternoon. Wear a dust mask and gloves. Ceramic tile will cut you very easily. I've seen it cut through leather gloves with ease. $4.25 seems very expensive to remove. I've done a bathroom, foyer and kitchen tile removal. I taped the doorways very well with plastic sheets to keep the dust in the room. I removed the old debris out through windows in the room so I wouldn't track through my house. Also had any fans I could find in the windows pulling air outside. I turned my ac off when working and then changed my filters out every week after I was done the job for a month.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5595 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
I did DYI’d ceramic tile once to save some $. My BIL, a plumber, lent me a chisel hammer, but in my case the tile came up easy as in boodroo’s pics and I didn’t require the hammer chisel so it wasn’t too bad. Very dusty, as others mentioned, and the biggest job was actually hauling off the old ceramic tile. I saved a couple thousand that I applied to other projects but not sure I’d do again, and now I do understand why they charge so much to tile removal.

But if your current tile is great shape, I would think you can tile over it as you now thinking. I’ve read and heard on home improvement radio programs if you go this route try to avoid to very extent possible, having grout line on the new tile not line up, with the old grout line of the tile underneath. I suppose that wouldn’t be a problem if using a vinyl tile using an adhesive.

Posted by Stlsport
Shreveport
Member since Oct 2007
1014 posts
Posted on 6/24/20 at 2:16 pm to
I'm doing it right now and using a rotary hammer with a chisel. It's not difficult but it's dusty and time consuming.
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