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Shade Tree suggestion south LA

Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:01 pm
Posted by bobdylan
Cankton
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:01 pm
The distance from our house and fence on the side of our home where I would like to plant a tree is 30’.

Would like a tree that would provide some shade to that side (west) of our house once it matures.

Any suggestions? Would prefer something native and with lower risk of coming down in a storm due to the close proximity.

Fast growing would be another plus.

Are drake elms something I should consider?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:06 pm to
Love drake elms.

Downside include shallow roots that can be a problem early, established trees tend to hold up fine in hurricanes.

Shed and drop leaves. But that is a good thing on the west side of a house.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

established trees tend to hold up fine in hurricanes.



Mature Drakes get blown over fairly easy too. I know some in the Quad that were 35 years old were taken out by Katrina. And the wind storms we have in Dallas w/ 60mph winds blow them over too.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:33 pm to
They certainly aren't the best for potential high wind.

So nice to have a hammock under though.

I like the idea of a river birch too, but they dont really get the same canopy.
This post was edited on 9/26/19 at 11:34 pm
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/26/19 at 11:51 pm to
I’ve had great success with Red Maples on my last two properties. Grow fast but they do drop leaves in fall
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 6:15 am to
Drake elm is a great choice.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 6:19 am to
A row of cypress will cast some shade as they mature, esp if you don’t trim too many lower branches. Very wind resistant and native.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:06 am to
Southern sugar maple - native LSU Super Plant LINK. Bald cypress is nice, fast growing, and rather compact, columnar for a tall tree, but then you need to consider the cypress knees.

Evergreen - sweet bay magnolia also a native, LSU Super plant. Columnar, compact, but a deciduous tree is usually preferred on the west side of house so as to not shade it in winter.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11387 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:17 am to
Do you want something that drops it leaves in the fall?
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:27 am to
Drake Elm
Sycamore (if you can deal with leaves and other issues)
Cottonwood (but can be a bit brittle)
Paulownia Kawakami (but not native)
Black Locust (but seed pod litter)
Water Oak (but not the fastest growing)
Pecan (but will drop limbs)
Posted by bobdylan
Cankton
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:30 am to
Thanks for all of the input.

I’m indifferent about leaves dropping.

Our only other tree is a red maple about 3 years old.

Love cypress trees but worried about the knees.

That southern sugar maple looks awesome.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11387 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:35 am to
Surprised the shumard oak (red) hasn't been mentioned.

It's my favorite.

Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84128 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 9:35 am to
Chinese Tallow.
Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:10 am to
I presume the tallow "popcorn tree" rec is a joke. Pure trash tree

Shumard, Live, and Cow oaks are the best oaks for wind resistance.

here is some responses I've given on similiar thread:

Sweet gum or gumball tree is consistently listed as amongst the most hurricane resistant trees. The gumballs Are a real hassle, but there is a gumball–less version that I have planted in my front yard to provide future shade that is worth hunting down. It is a far narrower tree than the species, though.

LINK ; ; fruitless gumball tree

LSU hurricane recs:

LINK

LINK

I had to order mine (gumball-less) on line, receiving a typical 2-3 foot whip in a Coke-can sized pot, but this is its second summer and it is about 7 feet tall with multiple branches, growing like mad. Very happy with that decision.

Tupelos are another great choice for planting near the house in hurricane country. Some strains of the common varieties are sold that have unusual spring and summer foliage color
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
84128 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:19 am to
quote:

I presume the tallow "popcorn tree" rec is a joke. Pure trash tree
I know this is a common thought, but both of my last two houses have had one(there when I bought). If a single tree, they are pretty damn good shade trees. In a neighborhood, they are not going to spread.
Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:31 am to
I would agree, the common wisdom may be overblown. They do grow fast, but have a reputation for brittleness and having seedlings show up all over your property. I had an an enormous 1 in the back of my property that seemed to do just fine, though I took it down in the last week or so just because it was in the way of a unrelated project. There are probably better choices if your main interest is fast growth. Even then, consider planting both a fast growth and a slow growth tree, planning to take down the fast grower in 8 to 12 years.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:33 am to
Thornless black honey locust

id advise against red maples. They don’t have a long life span and many look very scraggly.

Drakes are good but lean a lot.

I love sweet bays but they don’t really give great shade imo
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5596 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Surprised the shumard oak (red) hasn't been mentioned. It's my favorite.


Great tree but I was thinking the 30 foot from the house might be a bit close for a large tree years down the road, but as I type this I’m looking out my front window at my neighbors 25 year old cherry bark oak (nearly identical to a Shumard), 40-50 feet tall, which is no more than 30 feet from his house and it looks fabulous, and there are no issues with limbs over hanging the roof, etc.

Another tree I like and think is attractive is the spruce pine, native, deep tap root so a hurricane would not likely up-root it, but it’s an evergreen and I’d be more inclined to plant a deciduous tree on the west side of an house - I think that’s what landscape architects would generally recommend.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40617 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 10:53 am to
Chinese Pistache is a great medium size tree with really good fall color. The only negative is it has just been put on the invasive species list. But in a typical urban/suburban environment, that won't be a problem.

Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5596 posts
Posted on 9/27/19 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Chinese Pistache is a great medium size tree with really good fall color.

I planted a Chinese Pistache 2 years ago in my front yard to replace a Bradford Pear whose time had passed LSU AgCenter says the Chinese Pistache is great landscape tree that is vastly under-utilized in our area. Looking forward to see how it looks in a few more years - I read they can look a bit awkward their first several years of growth before they begin to take proper form.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 11:20 am
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