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Portal losses affecting depth

Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by MRDEATHVALLEY85
Lafayette
Member since May 2021
332 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:15 pm
I know these guys aren’t starters. But how do teams have depth if the 2’s and 3’s continue to constantly leave every year. I know you can grab new players in portal. But that’s new guys learning a new scheme every year. Instead of having possibly a year three guy starting, you will always have new players. Won’t this hurt the product teams are putting on field? Especially in the beginning of the season.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
60615 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:19 pm to
They find depth the same way they lost depth, its coming for everyone
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3410 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:20 pm to
This is the new normal. 3rd or 4th year players sticking around and contributing as jr’s and sr’s will be rare
This post was edited on 12/14/22 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50891 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:24 pm to
They portal giveth and the portal taketh. However LSU does very well in the portal. We will be alright
Posted by HtxDr
Member since Oct 2022
727 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:26 pm to
When kids start to realize that the grass isn’t always greener. Being a backup isn’t a bad thing but society as a whole doesn’t work for anything anymore.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14452 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:26 pm to
Bama has 13 players in the portal. A&M has 22. Welcome to the new normal.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11291 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:40 pm to
Not all 3rd or 4th year players are the same. Position groups are also different.

An interior offensive lineman might be good and he’s done everything right on and off the field. However, he’s also the 4th best Guard on the team. No one can blame him for leaving to get playing time elsewhere before he runs out of eligibility. Especially when he might be better than half of the other Guards in FBS.

It’s hard to replace that type of player.
Posted by Willietd
Member since Apr 2017
1781 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:43 pm to
I think this will be an issue for all teams moving forward. We are just feeling it more right now because of the program status Kelly inherited this team.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8338 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:47 pm to
It is all relative. Of course we will lose depth. Kelly is do far this year, ahead of the competition in managing the losses. We so far have not lost it at a position of great need, and we are retention is a TON better than last year when we lost two starting CBs, a potential starting RB.

I do agree, the loss of Hill and Dumerville is frustrating as they likely would've been in the rotation 2023 if we have any injuries.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12580 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

But how do teams have depth if the 2’s and 3’s continue to constantly leave every year


The do so by working the portal that these kids are leaving for. Do you think kids go to the portal but no kids transfer in?
Posted by steamengineRR
Member since Nov 2016
253 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 3:59 pm to



quote:

When kids start to realize that the grass isn’t always greener. Being a backup isn’t a bad thing but society as a whole doesn’t work for anything anymore.


coordinators frequently leaving means every loyal player on two teams has to learn a new scheme. Unfortunate for the loyal players that the older generation can’t stay loyal to a school.
Posted by chaso
clinton ms.
Member since Aug 2006
2778 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:04 pm to
It’s the new generation of “if I can’t play I quit ! No such thing as team concept ! Or maybe they just weren’t good enough
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6227 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:08 pm to
Xavier Hill, Garrett Dellinger, and Miles Frazier are all in the same classification. He wouldn't start here unless they go pro after next year or the next and he uses his Covid year. A lot of guys aren't going to chance that.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10562 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

It’s the new generation of “if I can’t play I quit ! No such thing as team concept ! Or maybe they just weren’t good enough
I disagree, but I'm probably closer to their generation than your.

The overwhelming majority of players will never sniff the NFL. If I spent two years in a system and the writing was on the wall that I'm looking at little to no playing time, I'm transferring to a place where I can play with the remaining eligibility I have.

I fault no kid for doing the same
Posted by Germantiger001
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2016
840 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:13 pm to
The portal is a 2 way street. As we lose, we can gain. I trust BK will field a competitive team. He’s also barely had a year under his belt so I’m sure he’s still in the process of making this roster his own. In that process, players from the old guard will fall off
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7612 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:15 pm to
This is a major issue for us and is being discounted by just about everyone.

This team lacked depth this year and now we have far more to replace/fill in than people understand.

Look at 247 Roster Composite for this year. 247 roster composite

We had 72 players on the roster that were rated with 3 stars or above. 72! Damn near every quality team has 83-85.

Go through that list and you will see you have to drop all the way down to West Virginia to see a team that has fewer than 72.

Yes we have great talent but we lack depth big time. Now we have to replace not only the 13 legitimate players that we did not have this year, but we also have to replace the Seniors, NFL guys and the transfers.

This is a much bigger problem than just saying "everyone is facing the same problem."

No, we are starting from a much different spot than everyone else.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27682 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:36 pm to
It's close to the point that we will not have an O-line rotation next year. We'll have 5 starters and one or two backups that can rotate around during injuries.

Brian Kelly has destroyed the depth of this team!
Posted by Tigre85
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2019
1921 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:42 pm to
Aren't you just a ray of sunshine . Do us a favor , pull for someone else . Geaux Tigers .
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
42009 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:42 pm to
Add replacements

Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56476 posts
Posted on 12/14/22 at 4:51 pm to
West Virginia had 1 five star and 8 fours.

LSU had 5 5 star and 33 fours.....I dont think you could even think that is the nearest comparison to us.

We are losing some back ups, we have an awesome class coming in and will get enough portal players to make things easy. A T/G that can fill both, and a G/C that can fill both will do wonders for depth.
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