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I have insurance money for roof repairs on a home that I'm about to sell...
Posted on 2/5/22 at 12:15 am
Posted on 2/5/22 at 12:15 am
I got $6k from my insurance company to put towards roof repairs after Ida. The house is going to be sold fairly soon, but my roof guy hasn't been able to squeeze me in yet. I still see a lot of blue tarps while driving around Metry, so that shite might take a while.
I've fully intended to use the money to fix my roof, but do I have to? Can I say frick it, sell the house as-is, and pocket the money? Do I need to sell the house with that $6k as an allowance towards the roof repairs and hand the money over to the new buyer?
I'm really not trying to take insurance money and spend the money on hookers and blow, I'm just kind of getting boxed in by the lack of workers right now.
Thanks fellas.
I've fully intended to use the money to fix my roof, but do I have to? Can I say frick it, sell the house as-is, and pocket the money? Do I need to sell the house with that $6k as an allowance towards the roof repairs and hand the money over to the new buyer?
I'm really not trying to take insurance money and spend the money on hookers and blow, I'm just kind of getting boxed in by the lack of workers right now.
Thanks fellas.
Posted on 2/5/22 at 6:20 am to THRILLHO
We’re in process of selling and the only thing I can tell you is there is a question in sellers disclosure to the effect “have you received insurance money and not completed the repair?”
Posted on 2/5/22 at 6:28 am to THRILLHO
I am not 100% positive on this but I believe you would have to report the insurance proceeds as taxable income to the extent you do not use them for repairs.
Posted on 2/5/22 at 7:09 am to THRILLHO
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I'm really not trying to take insurance money and spend the money on hookers and blow, I'm just kind of getting boxed in by the lack of workers right now.
Sure you are; otherwise, you would just give the $6k to the buyers to put toward a new roof or return the money to insurance company. I am not judging whether you should keep the money or not, but don’t act like you are boxed in with no other options.
This post was edited on 2/5/22 at 7:11 am
Posted on 2/5/22 at 7:38 am to THRILLHO
You also run the risk that the buyer will ask questions (justifiably) and send their guy out there and decide it will take a lot more than $6k to fix. Hell, they may push for a new roof as a condition to buy
Posted on 2/5/22 at 10:06 am to THRILLHO
As long as you disclose the roof damage and the buyer waives all the applicable contingencies and doesn’t request you repair the damage, then yes you can say frick it and sell it as is. Which in today’s market is quite common. Would be a dick move though
Posted on 2/5/22 at 12:31 pm to THRILLHO
Congrats on the casualty gain. Better hold back some money to pay the tax on that $6K.
Posted on 2/5/22 at 3:10 pm to THRILLHO
Your prospective buyers are going to have a hard time getting homeowners insurance on a house with unrepaired roof damage, especially nowadays. If the buyer can’t get it insured until the roof is replaced, they won’t be able to close unless they’re buying cash
Posted on 2/5/22 at 9:49 pm to jclem11
quote:What's the gain? He's selling the house at a lowered price (presumably) because it has a damaged roof. All the insurance money does is make him whole. IMHO. YMMV. And, even though I studied tax law under Susan Kalinka at LSU Law, I am nowhere near an expert. Hell, I pay a CPA to do my own taxes.
on the casualty gain
All of that said, this is the same advice I gave my dad about whether he should report insurance money on a storm claim as income. In his case, the repair actually cost less than the insurance appraisal. I think that even after the deductible was satisfied and the contractor paid that he had $2K left over. In my mind, the insurance company's appraisal reflected the cost of returning my dad's building into its pre-storm condition, including things like loss of use, lessened value, etc. There definitely was no "income" or realized gain. It would be no different than being involved in a fender bender where someone else struck your car. You could choose to repair it using insurance proceeds, or, if the car remained road-worthy, you could pocket the money as a payment received to make you whole. Financially, you would not be better off because the car's value would have been depreciated by an amount (minimally) equal to the cost of repairs, so the proceeds would not be a windfall (or "gain").
Again, not legal advice, consult your own CPA, tip your waiter, and YMMV.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 8:25 am to THRILLHO
Put the roof on and increase sales price 10k.
Net positive for you and you'll sell house easier and faster.
Net positive for you and you'll sell house easier and faster.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:49 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
really not trying to take insurance money and spend the money on hookers and blow
Why not?
Posted on 2/7/22 at 12:52 pm to go ta hell ole miss
quote:
you would just give the $6k to the buyers to put toward a new roof or return the money to insurance company. I am not judging whether you should keep the money or not, but don’t act like you are boxed in with no other options.
To me a lot of it depends on if buyers are purchasing house “as is” or if inspection has been done and they expect the roof fixed.
I would explain the situation and offer to knock 6k off sale price or just give them the money if work hasn’t started by the time of closing if they expect roof to be fixed
Posted on 2/7/22 at 3:36 pm to THRILLHO
Pretty sure that would be insurance fraud
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:05 am to Double Oh
Its not insurance fraud. He paid premiums for years so that is something were to happen the insurance would pay for the cost of damages. A storm damaged his roof, and they paid him out.
The insurance can't make you use the money to fix the damages, they just may drop you or change your policy if the roof isn't repaired. He is selling the house so neither of these is an issue.
Sell the house as is. If they don't want to buy the house for the price with the damaged roof, they don't have to buy it. But in this market, someone else likely will.
The insurance can't make you use the money to fix the damages, they just may drop you or change your policy if the roof isn't repaired. He is selling the house so neither of these is an issue.
Sell the house as is. If they don't want to buy the house for the price with the damaged roof, they don't have to buy it. But in this market, someone else likely will.
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:27 am to Double Oh
quote:
Pretty sure that would be insurance fraud
I dont think so.
Usually, there is recoverable depreciation (a second check from the insurance) that he would receive after the repairs are done. Insurance fraud would be claiming the repairs are done to get the 2nd check when they havent been done.
If he doesnt sell, his own insurance company may cancel because of the condition of the home (assuming he is with a reputable company that doesnt want bad risk)
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:49 am to Double Oh
quote:No it isn't. It would only be fraud if he got paid for these damages, didn't make repairs, then tried to file a 2nd claim for the same damages after a subsequent wind/hail storm. If he pockets the insurance money and sells the house as-is, then the claim payment he received is compensating for the loss in market value due to the unrepaired damage. He just wouldn't recoup any recoverable depreciation if he sells prior to making the repairs.
Pretty sure that would be insurance fraud
Posted on 2/8/22 at 10:57 am to Tiger Prawn
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Your prospective buyers are going to have a hard time getting homeowners insurance on a house with unrepaired roof damage, especially nowadays. If the buyer can’t get it insured until the roof is replaced, they won’t be able to close unless they’re buying cash
This will be the issue. No issue company will write a policy on the house if the roof is already damaged until the roof is repaired
Posted on 2/8/22 at 1:55 pm to THRILLHO
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THRILLHO
Shoot me an email. Matt@elitecontractorsla.com
We should be able to help you out.
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