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For college football history buffs: a multi-part documentary on the Wishbone offense
Posted on 2/19/23 at 7:51 am
Posted on 2/19/23 at 7:51 am
This YouTube channel made a fairly solid documentary series on the rise of the Wishbone offense in the late-60s/early-70s and its eventual fall by the late-80s. For you younger fans who might never have heard of it or understand the impact this offensive system had on the game of college football, click below to learn some interesting stuff. For those of you nostalgic for the past? Same thing.
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Posted on 2/19/23 at 7:58 am to RollTide1987
I'll for sure be watching that at a future date. Thanks.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 8:59 am to RollTide1987
Watching it now.
My high school coach played at UF and then some time in the NFL. I asked him why we don't see the wishbone or option in the NFL. He said the guys are too fast, too good, and it would end up killing the QBs.
Is the wishbone something that can (or could) only work in college?
My high school coach played at UF and then some time in the NFL. I asked him why we don't see the wishbone or option in the NFL. He said the guys are too fast, too good, and it would end up killing the QBs.
Is the wishbone something that can (or could) only work in college?
Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:16 am to RollTide1987
Lolve the wishbone but hated to play against it. I was a defensive end and was never so confused in my life. That and the Veer
Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:18 am to POTUS2024
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Is the wishbone something that can (or could) only work in college?
The option has been reinvented and reoccurred in college and pro football forever. The wishbone was just another variation of an old theme. For the most part, it was power football which makes it different from the RPO stuff we see today. And there were versions of that.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 9:48 am to RollTide1987
Hated playing against teams that ram it, I was a DT but I was also an OT and whenever we would pull a play out of the old playbook and run a modified wishbone I liked the play.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:03 am to RollTide1987
I am child of the 70's and 80's, loved watching watching wishbone teams. If ran properly it is almost impossible to defend.
My favorite of the running offense was the Wing-T. Never really understood why it never caught on big time in college. It had the option and misdirection elements but was much easier to pass out of.
My favorite of the running offense was the Wing-T. Never really understood why it never caught on big time in college. It had the option and misdirection elements but was much easier to pass out of.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 10:19 am to 91TIGER
1980s football seemed to be defined by that carpet astroturf and the wishbone.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:28 am to POTUS2024
It really doesn’t work in college anymore . The guys there are really fast now. Army and navy and Air Force use it but it’s not as effective against top teams.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:29 am to ReauxlTide222
I believe that is Jamelle Hollieway.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:31 am to dukke v
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Army and navy and Air Force use it but it’s not as effective against top teams.
They don't even use it. They all use the Flexbone.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 11:57 am to POTUS2024
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Is the wishbone something that can (or could) only work in college?
1. It’s difficult to stress the defense vertically in the wishbone. In the flexbone, you can still run 4 verticals, which is why it’s the preferred way to run veer triple option in college now.
2. Defensive fronts are so strong and athletic nowadays that it’s very difficult to run between the tackles without creating angles with fullbacks/tight ends or spreading the defense out and running a zone scheme. It’s hard to get the ball-carriers in the wishbone to effectively block interior defensive players on non option runs. The speed of defenses and the rules against cutting on the perimeter make running the option in todays game much harder as well
3. Blocking techniques, quarterback play, and the evolution of the receiver make it hard to find the players for a wishbone offense. For it to come back, a bunch of teams would have to invest in it, which they won’t in modern football.
As another poster stated, offenses have evolved to include many wishbone principles and schemes, but it’s just not the best option in todays game.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 12:26 pm to Zendog
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Lolve the wishbone but hated to play against it. I was a defensive end and was never so confused in my life. That and the Veer
You want fun as a defensive end, defend the single wing.
I’ve never been so beat up postgame. 14 tackles and we lost on the last play.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 1:09 pm to Downeast12
To me it’s not that the wishbone stopped working, it’s that it got too easy for other offenses to put up points. Being able to control the clock does you no good if you’re down 28-0 inside of a quarter
You really need a whole team effort to win games like that and if you’re weak somewhere, explosive offenses give you the best chance to sneak a win
You really need a whole team effort to win games like that and if you’re weak somewhere, explosive offenses give you the best chance to sneak a win
Posted on 2/19/23 at 2:11 pm to bamameister
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For the most part, it was power football
IDK bout that.
The I and power I were better examples and the wishbone also enabled smaller,quicker teams to compete against bigger, physical teams.
Posted on 2/19/23 at 5:32 pm to Downeast12
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1. It’s difficult to stress the defense vertically in the wishbone. In the flexbone, you can still run 4 verticals, which is why it’s the preferred way to run veer triple option in college now.
Agreed.
My dad was a high school football coach, and he was die hard Split Back Veer. I was his QB for three years. I love option football.
There’s no doubt in my mind that a team with Georgia and Alabama talent could win a national title running the Flexbone with personnel recruited for it and someone like Paul Johnson as OC. The biggest negative isn’t the scheme but convincing top talent to play in an offense that doesn’t translate very well to the NFL. That even applies to defensive players, who don’t want to spend spring and fall practice tackling dive backs and running to a pitch man. They aren’t going to get the necessary development either.
But if they could still get those players, yes, they would win.
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